Originally posted by Existere
Fair enough. I hadn't actually considered (or, really, heard of) cases where women who were abused as children grew up to realize a homosexual (or bisexual, pansexual etc) identity.
No, me neither, but it's kind of a cliche (albeit a sick one) ; Girl gets raped by guy, becomes lesbian due to mistrust of men. There are some very mis-informed people who think this is how lesbians are made, I would think anyway.
Originally posted by Dr Mystery
No, me neither, but it's kind of a cliche (albeit a sick one) ; Girl gets raped by guy, becomes lesbian due to mistrust of men. There are some very mis-informed people who think this is how lesbians are made, I would think anyway.
if it were that simple, science would have known what caused homosexuality a month after they started looking
Originally posted by dadudemon
Ahhhh. Thanks for the clarification. I did not realize how heavily influenced higher thought processes were by lower ones (not the obvious ones, but more subtle abstract ones like conceptual attractivness versus purely biological traits.)The visual cortex psychologist pulls through for me. pained
ya, sorry it wasn't a full answer, but I figured that was the main issue you were talking about. I'm not aware of either of the studies you brought up, so I can't speak to them specifically, but none of that is overly surprising.
I'd point out though, in this case, we aren't talking about low level influencing high level, we are talking about behavior being motivated by things that these higher or declarative centers may never be aware of. it's similar to the libet research, where motivation to act comes after your body has already prepared to make the action. in many ways, our declarative, conscious mind plays a secondary role in determining our behavior (damn auto correct keeps taking the "u" out of that).
this actually is also somewhat important with regard to the infant looking stuff. c-master wants to interpret longer looking as a measure of attraction, whereas it could be that more symmetric faces simply draw our attention better, and because we attend to things more, a consequence might be that we rate them as more attractive. if that makes sense.
Originally posted by dadudemon
The visual cortex psychologist pulls through for me. pained
lol, and just because I'm neurotic, its not simply visual cortex anymore(I was more an attention psychologist than anything before anyways, just visual attention) but rather visuo-motor, or action and perception now 🙂
Originally posted by inimalist
this actually is also somewhat important with regard to the infant looking stuff. c-master wants to interpret longer looking as a measure of attraction, whereas it could be that more symmetric faces simply draw our attention better, and because we attend to things more, a consequence might be that we rate them as more attractive. if that makes sense.
It does; that makes perfect sense.
Originally posted by inimalist
lol, and just because I'm neurotic, its not simply visual cortex anymore(I was more an attention psychologist than anything before anyways, just visual attention) but rather visuo-motor, or action and perception now 🙂
Cool, so this is why you're talking about thought propogation and motivation origins?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Cool, so this is why you're talking about thought propogation and motivation origins?
no, to be frank, I rarely talk about concepts at a level beyond intro psych courses
most people who have the same degree as me, regardless of their specialization, would be familiar with what I'm saying
Originally posted by King Kandy
It's fun.
I don't find it that fun, actually.
She's obviously not an uber academic and she has some old school opinions/beliefs that find their roots in religion. It might have been cool to pick on those types in highschool to some but not on an internet message board.
Think about: how many times have people "verbally" abused her for her opinions and how many times has she changed her way of thinking?
Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't find it that fun, actually.She's obviously not an uber academic and she has some old school opinions/beliefs that find their roots in religion. It might have been cool to pick on those types in highschool to some but not on an internet message board.
Think about: how many times have people "verbally" abused her for her opinions and how many times has she changed her way of thinking?