Void vs Superboy prime

Originally posted by carver9
I agree...someone else brought Hulk up so I decided to put my million dollar words in. I'm done with it though since it is straying us off topic. Sentry stomps.

There is no Sentry persona in this fight, just the Void persona.
It's a spite thread in all honesty.

Originally posted by the ninjak
There is no Sentry persona in this fight, just the Void persona.
It's a spite thread in all honesty.

I know but they are one of the same...one just doesnt care about killing or holding their powers back.

What did Void do that Sentry did? that could defeat Prime?

Originally posted by the ninjak
What did Void do that Sentry did? that could defeat Prime?

Void is Sentry, an unrestrained Sentry. This was stated on panel. Sentry just held back all of that power. Whatever each did, imo is shared amongst the other since they are one of the same.

Yeah but we have to go with on panel feats here.

We can't assume someone can do something if they've never done it before.

Sentry matter manipulated Molecule Man into non-existence and I believe Void used it to bypass the durability of gods like Thor and Ares but such endeavors shouldn't work on Prime.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Yeah but we have to go with on panel feats here.

We can't assume someone can do something if they've never done it before.

Sentry matter manipulated Molecule Man into non-existence and I believe Void used it to bypass the durability of gods like Thor and Ares but such endeavors shouldn't work on Prime.

void was in control when he did that to molecule man. They are one in the same. If you recall when sentry was destroy NY he was using the tentacles to do it.(which is a void power) Void also killed loki the same way they did to molecule man

I was told matter manip didn't work on Prime.

Why wouldn't it work?

Superman has displayed matter manipulation resistance several times in his career. Prime, being more powerful, should logically be more resistant to such an avenue of attack.

Of course, I certainly don't think Prime would be able to do shit against Molecule Man at full power. Conversely, I don't think Void is inherently > Molecule Man in spite of his single showing nor do I think that because Void bested Molecule Man at his own game does that mean you can transfer feats over from Owen to Void. /shrug

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Superman has displayed matter manipulation resistance several times in his career. Prime, being more powerful, should logically be more resistant to such an avenue of attack.

Of course, I certainly don't think Prime would be able to do shit against Molecule Man at full power. Conversely, I don't think Void is inherently > Molecule Man in spite of his single showing nor do I think that because Void bested Molecule Man at his own game does that mean you can transfer feats over from Owen to Void. /shrug

Give this man a cookie of rationality.

Well Prime actually was disassembled atom by atom and it didn't kill him.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Superman has displayed matter manipulation resistance several times in his career. Prime, being more powerful, should logically be more resistant to such an avenue of attack.

Of course, I certainly don't think Prime would be able to do shit against Molecule Man at full power. Conversely, I don't think Void is inherently > Molecule Man in spite of his single showing nor do I think that because Void bested Molecule Man at his own game does that mean you can transfer feats over from Owen to Void. /shrug

If you're referring to Prime being warped into the multiverse by the Guardian, I view that more as a BFR sort of thing than him actually being demolecularized and surviving. Similar things have happened when Lanterns cross over from the positive matter universe to the anti-matter universe.

Originally posted by bbrem123
you obviously cant transfer feats but there is no way in hell that prime has better resistance then molecule man himself.

No, he doesn't.

Still, personally, given Owen's feats, I think his showing in Dark Avengers was pretty low end for him and high end for Sentry/Void. He had trouble effecting Daken because of his healing factor. Of course, this could likely be attributed to his mindset effecting his overall ability, much like Sentry.

It's still a canon feat, but I don't think that single feat is enough to justify Void tearing apart Prime atom by atom.

Molecule Man himself, though, at his best, would run a lawl-train on Prime, though.

Prime wins all three

Voidtry pretty much cheapshotted Owen anyway after being destroyed into nothingess twice I believe.

2 to 1. Owen just doesn't have the ability (apparently) to reform.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Voidtry pretty much cheapshotted Owen anyway after being destroyed into nothingess twice I believe.

Yeah, as far as I remember, Bob kept coming back and eventually displayed enough power over Owen to stop him from killing him again. But the fact that he clearly didn't know how to undo Owen's shenanigans was a testament to Owen having greater overall finesse and control over molecular manipulation than Bob. He forced Owen to fix everything before getting rid of him. So, there's that to consider, too.

Also, Bendis.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, as far as I remember, Bob kept coming back and eventually displayed enough power over Owen to stop him from killing him again. But the fact that he clearly didn't know how to undo Owen's shenanigans was a testament to Owen having greater overall finesse and control over molecular manipulation than Bob. He forced Owen to fix everything before getting rid of him. So, there's that to consider, too.

Also, Bendis.

Owen can fix a town, but he can't just grab Sentry and destroy him again.

It would have made more sense for Captain America to come out of nowhere and punch Owen out again.

bran and jake talking sense. 👆 oh, and bumpity. 🙂

Jake....

Also, Void sooner or later if he's full on tentacle monster.

Edit: I thought it was Doomsday for some reason. Prime would beat Void.