sabretooth vs iron fist

Started by Dum Dum Dugan22 pages

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Fist punches all his teeth out until he's only left with Sabre, and then he eats his teeth and becomes Fisttooth

lol

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Yes and? Wolverine done the same thing and with objects as fast and faster then bllets so whats your point? Sabre-tooth is even faster then Wolverine.

When? Any scans of it?

The only scan I've ever seen of Wolverine catching a bullet is this one:

And that's a non canon story.

Besides, Lady Shiva can hang with Cassandra Cain, a confirmed bullet timer, but that don't make Shiva a bullet timer..

Originally posted by cdtm
When? Any scans of it?

The only scan I've ever seen of Wolverine catching a bullet is this one:

And that's a non canon story.

Besides, Lady Shiva can hang with Cassandra Cain, a confirmed bullet timer, but that don't make Shiva a bullet timer..


I believe it cannon personally as the author clearly implied it was and it was selled as recovered memory of wolverine but to each his own.

I was referrfing to reacting after bullets and projectiles of that speed were fired, which he done several times.

Lady Siva is a aim dodger, as is Cass, there pretty much mirror images of eachother.......that was an awful comparison.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan

Lady Siva is a aim dodger, as is Cass, there pretty much mirror images of eachother.......that was an awful comparison.

Cass is no aim dodger:

Only posting these to prove comparing Cass and Shiva isn't off base.. Cass has the bullet time feats, Shiva doesn't.

Now, if you have any Creed bt feats, great, but I'm going to start posting Danny Rand feats. 😄

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I believe it cannon personally as the author clearly implied it was and it was selled as recovered memory of wolverine but to each his own.

I was referrfing to reacting after bullets and projectiles of that speed were fired, which he done several times.

Lady Siva is a aim dodger, as is Cass, there pretty much mirror images of eachother.......that was an awful comparison.

It's not canon.

Originally posted by cdtm
When? Any scans of it?

The only scan I've ever seen of Wolverine catching a bullet is this one:

And that's a non canon story.

This one looks like a bullet time.

Also anyone remember when Logan moves so fast that Nightcrawler himself didn't know where he went? IIRC it happened in broad day light as well.

I haven't seen the scan myself in a long time but that's gotta be up there if he did. Anyone have it?

Originally posted by Daredevil1
This one looks like a bullet time.

Honestly that doesn't seems to be a bullet.

It looks like a old style musket bullet if you ask me. From the old days.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Honestly that doesn't seems to be a bullet.

it a special designed bullet, but yet it not possible to tell how fast it was going, bot that it matters. Wolverine has dodge a tank firer from point blank

I don't wanna lowball this feat but 3 things bug me about it.

1. There's a smokeline behind the projectile.

2. The projectile seems to explode when it hits Wolverine's chest.

3. Wolverine's chest is smoking after the impact.

3 things an ordinary bullet usually doesn't do.

EDIT@DumDum: Was it mentioned that it was a bullet? I haven't read the last few Best there is issues

^ It's a small rocket.

If Wolverine had bullet-time feats, we'd know about it by now. He's got nothing close to Daredevil, Cass or Cap.

Originally posted by Parmaniac

EDIT@DumDum: Was it mentioned that it was a bullet? I haven't read the last few Best there is issues


it was special bullet designed to carry smoke type of virus, and have no kick back I believe.

Heres bullet time Elektra admits Logan is not only stronger then her but also faster. She explains to Logan that he always at a disadvantage because he's not really trying to kill her in the next set of scans and he's holding back in battle while that's her normal ways.

Elektra admits Wolverine is stronger and faster then her.(makes sense since Logan is "enhanced".
http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view&current=12.jpg

Here's proof of bullet time Elektra.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/Speed/?action=view&current=Elektra_Speed_v2_03_09.jpg

Originally posted by cdtm
Cass is no aim dodger:

I disagree. I also need to see the issue and title for the first scan in order to get the context from it.

Originally posted by cdtm

Only posting these to prove comparing Cass and Shiva isn't off base.. Cass has the bullet time feats, Shiva doesn't.

First one as I said, I need the context in order to accurately assess it, however the second one I do not believe is a bullet time feat. It aim dodging, but to an incredible level. Her ability is to read body language which allows her to apeare to dodge bullets, but she actually dodging the aim, but to digree other aim dodgers can't becuase of her ability. I think u mistake that feat for more then it is. I dont think She dodging the bullets themselfs, rather she dodging were there being aimed all while in motion.

Batgirls powers ever been explain in detail, even spending entire arc on what he actual abilities are. She not Superhuman physically, she has super human coordination as stated on pannel

Explanation- superhuman coordination

Also it be clearly defined that true meta like Slade are faster then Batgirl, she in capable of reading there movements (it comes out as orchestrater)

Also shiva not as good as cassie, but she is on her level physically, the fact she lacks those two feats (which one for sure is not bullet dodging but timing) does not erases the several times they have foughten on equal terms physically.

Originally posted by cdtm

Now, if you have any Creed bt feats, great, but I'm going to start posting Danny Rand feats. 😄

His feats are against establish characters, he does not do bullet time feats. Mostly becuase he has a healing factor and he a villain. However to say he can't is simply inaccurate. Wolverine has feats of that level and Creed as very much been established as faster then Wolverine.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan

His feats are against establish characters, he does not do bullet time feats. Mostly becuase he has a healing factor and he a villain. However to say he can't is simply inaccurate. Wolverine has feats of that level and Creed as very much been established as faster then Wolverine.

Pretty much the guy is faster then Elektra herself. As she admitted this above who had lots of bullet time feats.

Daredevil also has a lot more bullet time feats then Cap.

But DD has admitted Cap is much faster then him.

^ Character statements aren't feats.

Cap can still be faster than DD even though DD has more bullet time feats. Because Cap does indeed have several bullet time feats. One of which outshines DD's best.

That's nowhere near analogous to Elektra having several and Wolverine having none.

There not feats but there direct admissions of there own power level.

And these characters know the advantages that they have on one another since they fight one another.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Pretty much the guy is faster then Elektra herself. As she admitted this above who had lots of bullet time feats.

Daredevil also has a lot more bullet time feats then Cap.

But DD has admitted Cap is much faster then him.


Very true. Which people seem to always overlook such things despite the fact Marvel is clearly established hiarchy

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Character statements aren't feats.

Cap can still be faster than DD even though DD has more bullet time feats. Because Cap does indeed have several bullet time feats. One of which outshines DD's best.

That's nowhere near analogous to Elektra having several and Wolverine having none.

Cap has one high end bullet time feat, as when he is by the Red Skull. His other ones are not even remotely as impressive as that one. As for the majority of actually bullet feats DD is greater.

By bullet feats alone of course.

Doesn't matter DD has admitted not one but twice that Steve is much faster then him. And that does "count".