srankmissingnin
VP of Comic Knowledge
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I get it. When trying to figure out what would happen in a real fight, a real fight where a weakened Iron Fist embarasses Wolverine counts less than a sparring session between the two where both guys are holding back.Funny how you all love sparring sessions now. I seem to remember Gamora's sparring session with Thanos was suuuuuccchhh an irrelevant non-fight to ya'll. How the winds change so conveniently.
And still, Iron Fist beats Sabretooth in a real fight.
A "real" fight that happened years before any of Wolverine's character development which established his age, skill combat experience and powerset. Of course that first fight matters less, Wolverine was essentially a different character who just happened to have the same name... and even then all Danny could do was temp BFR remove him from the apartment.
Sparing / training matches aren't typically relevant because they usually involve a noticeably more skilled fighter, trying to teach a less skilled fighter something, so what we are left with isn't an accurate portrait of how that character would actually operate. That's why there are spar examples that have Tim Drake beating Lady Shiva, and Black Widow Beating Wolverine ect ect ect. You are right that as a training match this example isn't in and off itself concrete proof that Wolverine > Iron Fist, but I would say that in a case like this (or the Captain America vs Shang-Chi spar, or the Shang-Chi vs Nick Fury spar), it is a little different then most examples because one fighter isn't trying to teach the other something, and the other isn't trying to learn something, but it still isn't necessarily an accurate account of a fight. Still I would say it is more relevant than the standard "one of us is mind-controlled!' hero fights, we usually get.