Thor VS The Sentry (In a Fist fight)

Started by CosmicComet5 pages

Why can't he demonstrate that same level when he's a at normal levels?

I honestly don't take that instance too seriously.

Seems more like a trope more than anything. I don't know if there is a name for it, but I like to call it the inverse-power-skill rule. Sudden depowering, sudden gaining of skill levels never before seen.

Originally posted by wildernesss
how can thor even hit sentry when sentry can punch & maneuver faster than thor's neurons can even signal the brain to perform a physical movement? unless thor is just pissing into the wind & punching all over the place.

The same way Thor tags other people who use superspeed.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Why can't he demonstrate that same level when he's a at normal levels?

I honestly don't take that instance too seriously.

Seems more like a trope more than anything. I don't know if there is a name for it, but I like to call it the inverse-power-skill rule. Sudden depowering, sudden gaining of skill levels never before seen.

Heh, come to think of it, Superman suddenly gained the ability to own Kobra when he was in a human body..

Still, at the levels Thor fights at, how many opportunities does he really get to display h2h skills?

If you have a really big hammer, you use the hammer.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Why can't he demonstrate that same level when he's a at normal levels?

I honestly don't take that instance too seriously.

Seems more like a trope more than anything. I don't know if there is a name for it, but I like to call it the inverse-power-skill rule. Sudden depowering, sudden gaining of skill levels never before seen.

Sake of drama/plot, I'd wager.

I'd say that Thor's displayed a regular "baseline" level of skill in combat/brawling/etc and has his "warrior born" levels in which it's really hyped up.

His regular/consistent level of showing is greater than that of Sentry's, imo. His higher end, more played up displays of skill widen that gap.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Sentry uses his fists coupled with his speed, flight, energy projection/"matter manipulation", etc. Sentry hardly ever engages foes on foot using nothing but his fists and speed - he "blitzes" people in the air more than anything...hell, if you can show me Sentry speedblitzing someone on the ground, I'd appreciate it. Thor on the other hand, has multiple instances of tossing Mjolnir aside and engaging a foe straight up and winning.

Thor has monsterous strength as well, as well as more consistent and better strength feats to boot.

Is this spite or sorely one sided then in your opinion as the OP?

6/10 for sentry.

and sentry has never used matter manipulation in any meaningful way. that was void.

i'd like to see thor toss aside mjolnir & tangle with namor the way sentry did. sentry was punch stomping him into the street (pure h2h at this point by the way) & namor couldn't even counter. nothing. nada. and namor has given hercules & hulk problems. thor could not so overwhelmingly pummel namor without his hammer.

Originally posted by wildernesss
6/10 for sentry.

and sentry has never used matter manipulation in any meaningful way. that was void.

i'd like to see thor toss aside mjolnir & tangle with namor the way sentry did. sentry was punch stomping him into the street (pure h2h at this point by the way) & namor couldn't even counter. nothing. nada. and namor has given hercules problems. thor could not so overwhelmingly pummel namor without his hammer.

Thor one shot Namor in the soaking rain.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorStrength23Invaders33.jpg

that doesn't mean anything. namor could be standing again in the next caption, let alone page.

Originally posted by wildernesss
that doesn't mean anything. namor could be standing again in the next caption, let alone page.

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It means that Thor has one shot Namor out with a single blow with water involved. He's also one shot Abomination in a single blow.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor one shot Namor in the soaking rain.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorStrength23Invaders33.jpg

Invaders hasn't been kind to Namor. Nearly killed by Wolverine, and leveled by Thor..

Thor in both. Better fighter, tougher, stronger, etc...

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The same way Thor tags other people who use superspeed.

But does that outnumber the times he had trouble dealing with nonspeedster speeds?

Realistically though, if he can keep up with cap while at equal levels...he should be millions of times faster at normal strength.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Thor in both. Better fighter, tougher, stronger, etc...
He isn't tougher or stronger or more durable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He isn't tougher or stronger or more durable.

He sure isn't.

Yeah, he did tear Ares in half. That's insane strength..

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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It means that Thor has one shot Namor out with a single blow with water involved. He's also one shot Abomination in a single blow.

Invaders vol 1 #33

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Invaders33a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Invaders33b.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Invaders33c.jpg

the actual physical exchange is very brief and Namor is unharmed. namor even states he was away from the sea for too long & in a weakened state. thor gets smashed in the face before he can even do anything. namor couldn't land a single blow on sentry. In other words...fail.

the way sentry shit stomped namor during utopia was more on the up & up. namor was not in a weakened state since the x-men planned and prepped for the dark avengers. namor had to resort to throwing buses at him to try & keep away...until he caught namor & punch stomped him into the street so hard it collapsed the concrete under namor. namor couldn't even react.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah, he did tear Ares in half. That's insane strength..

almost did it to thor too.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor one shot Namor in the soaking rain.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorStrength23Invaders33.jpg

How much more stronger and durable is Thor over Masterson because to my knowledge, Masterson has some insane feats durability and strength wise. Reason I'm asking is because Gladiator hit Masterson one time (first punch thrown during the fight) and he was basically almost out of the fight, dizzy and could barely stand.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/224/42660845wb4.jpg/

Imo, Sentry is pretty close strength wise to Glads and if Masterson and Thor is as close physically as I think they are and Sentry strength is as close to Glads as I think it is... numerous of barrages from Sentry at super speed wouldn't be a safe bet for Thor.

HHHMM... I could see this happening.

http://comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=thor-2009120322060490&att=ThorKillsSentry_01_150.jpg&fullsize=yes

Originally posted by carver9
HHHMM... I could see this happening.

http://comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=thor-2009120322060490&att=ThorKillsSentry_01_150.jpg&fullsize=yes

I was just about to post the same thing. 😂

Originally posted by carver9
HHHMM... I could see this happening.

http://comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=thor-2009120322060490&att=ThorKillsSentry_01_150.jpg&fullsize=yes

yup 👆

however i don't think the ending will be the same!

and we have seen sentry is strong enough to make thor bleed from punches

Originally posted by quanchi112
He isn't tougher or stronger or more durable.

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