Psi Battle: Dr. Strange versus:

Lol touche LP. The Makers madness had passed by the time Thanos faced her(confirmed by Star Lord,Gladiator and the Cleric) and when Oracle of the Shiar Shut down the Maker it drove Oracle insane from just being near Maker

Originally posted by long pig
Strange would eat Xavier alive in a tp fight. He'd need cerebro just to hang in there with him.

IMHO, If this is a strict TP battle, then xavier could shut strange's mind off in a instant....no struggle, no drama. just instantaneous mind wipe. this is the guy who mentally defeated Dark Phoenix. without magic & all the rest strange's mind is not stronger than xavier's.

Uatu and The High Evolutionary are also top of the food chain telepaths.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Lol touche LP. The Makers madness had passed by the time Thanos faced her(confirmed by Star Lord,Gladiator and the Cleric) and when Oracle of the Shiar Shut down the Maker it drove Oracle insane from just being near Maker

Only thing with destroying the Maker's mind was that that wasn't TP, Thanos shot an energy blast through her head and lobotomised her.

Although he did hurt her earlier in the issue with a telepathic message...

I honestly think Shadow King would give him trouble, at the very least he should be higher on the list 😛

I thought it was a energy shot a first but if you look Thanos charges both eyes with energy but only fires a single shot, I believe it was a tp blast

Originally posted by Nihilist
I thought it was a energy shot a first but if you look Thanos charges both eyes with energy but only fires a single shot, I believe it was a tp blast

Except that you see the smoking hole on Maker's forehead, and on the next page as she falls down you see Thanos' hand outstretched glowing with energy as if he just fired a blast from that hand.

Also I would assume a TP blast wouldn't leave physical damage, but there clearly is some to the Maker...

Cassandra Nova could give Strange a run with strictly TP only taken into consideration, imo.

No point in posting if beats Moon Dragon w/mind gem since he already did.

Strange beats:
Jean
Shadow King
Emma
Xavier
Martian Manhunter
Moondragon w/mind gem

Its fiercely debatable if he can beat:
Cable /no T.O. Virus
Shaman X-Man
Cassandra Nova
Legion
Thanos

We can really cant gauge Apocalypse, since his TP are far to low, and scattered. And it was recently revealed that he counts on celestial tech, to block Telepathic assault.

Originally posted by "Id"
No point in posting if beats Moon Dragon w/mind gem since he already did.

Strange beats:
Jean
Shadow King
Emma
Xavier
Martian Manhunter
Moondragon w/mind gem

Its fiercely debatable if he can beat:
Cable /no T.O. Virus
Shaman X-Man
Cassandra Nova
Legion
Thanos

We can really cant gauge Apocalypse, since his TP are far to low, and scattered. And it was recently revealed that he counts on celestial tech, to block Telepathic assault.

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I wouldn't put Nova above Shadow King...

Strange beats most and could beat anybody on the list considering his feats. I would say he stalemates with a few to be fair but beats most of them. By the way.. the only one I would add to the list Nihi made is blocking xavier and moondragon from his mind with ease.

Originally posted by inimalist
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I wouldn't put Nova above Shadow King...

The Shadow King looses to Xavier. Granted a hard fought match, but loose none the less. Cassandra on the other hand is Xavier superior, accessing the full spectrum of the professors mutagenic ability. Cassie not only steam rolled through Xavier w/cerebra. She made a mockery of Jean tapping into the phoenix force.

Cassandra is definitely higher than the Shadow King. But to each its own.

Originally posted by "Id"
Oh I strongly disagree.

The Shadow King looses to Xavier. Granted a hard fought match, but loose none the less. Cassandra on the other hand is Xavier superior, accessing the full spectrum of the professors mutagenic ability. Cassie not only steam rolled through Xavier w/cerebra. She made a mockery of Jean tapping into the phoenix force.

Cassandra is definitely higher than the Shadow King. But to each its own.

iirc Xavier eventually beat Nova, and SK has been shown as Xavier's superior on a couple of occasions

But Nova easily beat Xavier while he was using cerebra.

It has been awhile, but I don't remember him beating her in a telepathic battle.

I thought that was how the arc ended?

It wasn't.

ah

Originally posted by wildernesss
IMHO, If this is a strict TP battle, then xavier could shut strange's mind off in a instant....no struggle, no drama. just instantaneous mind wipe. this is the guy who mentally defeated Dark Phoenix. without magic & all the rest strange's mind is not stronger than xavier's.

As far as the astral plane, afaik, Strange is the only one who can bring in weapons and artifacts into it. He was called the king of the astral plane by Eternity-AO, but that was a while ago.

I enjoy the TP hierarchy debate more than the topic. Would you even say Prof X is in the top 10 best telepaths?