Originally posted by cdtm
He dropped Lord Thor, and tanked a hammer toss...Can't believe a writer hasn't decided to bring him back yet. The whole "Don't know what to do with him, so kill him off" policy = lame.
Originally posted by King Kandy
no he did not drop king thor... he got a hammer in the face and its a feat that he survived. i think it would have been interesting if they'd fought it out but the writing staff on that book admitted they didn't like having fight scenes.
After the hammer got through his shield, he got back up and knocked Thor down with an energy attack.
I don't see Thor suddenly crashing every herald if he had their speed. We've seen Superman crash the criminal syndicate and 2 of them have his speed or close.
Thor is faster than Hulk yet he doesn't crash him. I just don't think it's speed alone, it's how they fight and use their abilities. In fact in most Superman Thor debates the speed is brought up after strength, and besides speed their's creativity or battle tactics.
Superman wouldn't be blitzing Thor in a comic, it'd be a no frills physical brawl and he'd beat him on average imo. Energy versatility is the only edge he'd have in the long run, but Supes still has serious energy projection powers with his HV which has done some amazing things - most recently getting through Epoch the Time Lords omega barrier.
No. If Supes actually used his full speed against regular Thor he'd own him, hands down. But with respect to CIS that doesn't play as big a factor in most Thor vs Supes discussions. I mean just look at the history of that debate. Giving him speed doesn't change the status quo as mush as people think. It just means we're no longer tip toeing around the idea of the enormous advantage that speed gives.
Superman as an example already fights guys that are on the same level speed wise. Thor with speed doesn't become an overwhelming force suddenly because he has speed. His hammer would still give him the slight edge on paper he always had in a straight physical battle, but Superman's strength and battle tactics would still play a factor in a truly even stevens fight.
Energy absorption, magical projection and other esoteric magic abilities would give Thor an advantage in energy versatility but that is the only major advantage he'd have. From a purely physical standpoint, he's nothing someone like Supes (as an example) hasn't faced before within his rogues i.e. a guy nearly as strong as him with the same speed, and even with some extra powers (Hank Henshaw comes to mind there), besides the obvious guys like Zod, Ultraman et al.
Also Superman has some extra abilities unique to him, vibrational powers etc that other non Krytponian's outside of Flash don't possess.
Originally posted by Allankles
No. If Supes actually used his full speed against regular Thor he'd own him, hands down. But with respect to CIS that doesn't play as big a factor in most Thor vs Supes discussions. I mean just look at the history of that debate. Giving him speed doesn't change the status quo as mush as people think. It just means we're no longer tip toeing around the idea of the enormous advantage that speed gives.Superman as an example already fights guys that are on the same level speed wise. Thor with speed doesn't become an overwhelming force suddenly because he has speed. His hammer would still give him the slight edge on paper he always had in a straight physical battle, but Superman's strength and battle tactics would still play a factor in a truly even stevens fight.
Energy absorption, magical projection and other esoteric magic abilities would give Thor an advantage in energy versatility but that is the only major advantage he'd have. From a purely physical standpoint, he's nothing someone like Supes (as an example) hasn't faced before within his rogues i.e. a guy nearly as strong as him with the same speed, and even with some extra powers (Hank Henshaw comes to mind there), besides the obvious guys like Zod, Ultraman et al.
Also Superman has some extra abilities unique to him, vibrational powers etc that other non Krytponian's outside of Flash don't possess.
Uuummm... Superman speed was continuously brought up in the Superman vs Thor thread. Read back through it.