Originally posted by PhilosophíaIt's not the only reason, but equalizing speed is like giving Green Lantern Superman's strength and durability. The lack of those things aren't the only reason they lose but with it the balance definitely would shift to a GLs favor vs heralds at their normal levels.
Lawlz @ people considering the speed advantage the only reason for why other heralds are even able to stand up to Thor.
Of course these heralds could still beat Thor but it definitely would be a lot harder without the speed advantage.
i just think of thor hitting with mjollnir with flash's speed, or even clark's speed..... he could be doing that and summon massive magical lightning bolts at the same time. his ability to take far far less punishment would be HUGE in this.
i actually find it a little easier to look at the inverse--what if everyone who fought thor fought with regular brawling speed? superman could still win, but his ability to dodge damage would be severely hindered and so i think the advantage would shift to thor. he'd have next to zero chance of getting out of the way of a lightning bolt, for instance. several at one time? he'd be in major trouble imo. we've seen lightning--on panel--harm ss. without the ability to dodge he would also be in some trouble, though ss would still have a very good chance via air transmutation (for one simple example). speed is ONE of the reasons i think ss can beat regular thor for about a split out of 10, but it's not the biggest reason i give it to ss. with speed equal--thor gets the nod from me.
certainly i think the others could still win, but i think the edge goes to thor in most cases, again, except perhaps runner.
Originally posted by kgkg
Thor is not the best sorry.
Majority say he is. The only people that say he isn't is the ones we already know how their thoughts are on the character. IMO, the only saving grace these characters have over Thor is speed, without that, game set and done, they don't stand a chance in hell against him.
Originally posted by carver9
Majority say he is. The only people that say he isn't is the ones we already know how their thoughts are on the character. IMO, the only saving grace these characters have over Thor is speed, without that, game set and done, they don't stand a chance in hell against him.
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And the only "saving grace" Thor has over these other characters is his hammer...
Originally posted by carver9
Majority say he is. The only people that say he isn't is the ones we already know how their thoughts are on the character. IMO, the only saving grace these characters have over Thor is speed, without that, game set and done, they don't stand a chance in hell against him.
That's bullshit I think Thor loses and I am not a Thor hater. So anyone who thinks Thor loses is a hater. I have no problems admiting what characters I hate and Thor isn't one of them.
Originally posted by carver9It's not that they can't win or make it a fight. It's just a unbalancing thing imo.
Majority say he is. The only people that say he isn't is the ones we already know how their thoughts are on the character. IMO, the only saving grace these characters have over Thor is speed, without that, game set and done, they don't stand a chance in hell against him.
One of things that Balanced Thor out against the others is the fact he is considered the slowest major high herald. The reason he was still balanced despite that fact is that imo he is very good across the board stat wise, and his damage output is 2nd to none in the High Herald category imo.
You take that delicate balance away and yeah he's going to start getting more decisive wins because what balanced him out before isn't there anymore
You can take any high herald and do the same thing.
Superman, give him real versatility and I would say he's going to get a decisive victory over a lot of people.
Give GLs Superman strength and they are gonna get large majorities against characters I wouldn't give them a nod against before.
You take away the speed advantage and all of a sudden Thor is going to be landing those devastating attacks a lot more frequently then normal. Basically what Leo said.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
That's bullshit I think Thor loses and I am not a Thor hater. So anyone who thinks Thor loses is a hater. I have no problems admiting what characters I hate and Thor isn't one of them.
Not saying that you are a hater but a character that is just as strong as any Herald, just as durable as any Herald, blunt force is better than any Herald, is more versatile than any Herald (minus Surfer), has the most powerful output of energy out of any Herald, and is packing a magical indestructible hammer that packs the heaviest hits out of any Herald, I see no reason wh Thor shouldn't be able to run through all of these Heralds with ease with an increase in speed. Speed was their only saving grace against him, without it, someone is getting pounded to sleep... 10/10 pound to sleep.
Thor is not the best, he is one of the best though. People like Rage make you like the char, people like Carver (who exagerate some chars and lowball others) accomplish the contrary.
Eat sh*t Carver 😛
Kidding.
No Thor's Advantage with the speed would be his Weapon, without it, he would be behind the better Heralds.
I don't say that he is a wimp without Mjolnir, but it is his greatest "Ability".