Is Thor the best?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You mean the one where Supes did get hit by Thor, where he did not knock Mjolnir out of Thor's hands and where Supes states Thor is the Single Toughest opponent he's ever defeated.. And where Supes is left in such a bad state from the fight that Iron Man can shoot him down.. And where the possibility of Thor winning a rematch is definetely left as a possibility??

That Jla/Marvel crossover right??

Yes, he hits and gets hit.
Yes he doesn't knock Mjolnir out of his hand, he doesn't need to, he stops it dead cold.
The first time Superman said such a thing, really 🙄, and there was this "he MAY be the si..." in his sentence.
IronMan shot at him, but didn't ko him. He was koed by IromMan+WonderMan+Hercules+She-Hulk+Vision

Thor vs Superman 50-50
Thor with Supermans speed vs Superman 70-30
Thor without Mjolnir + Supermans speed vs Superman 30-70
Thor with Mjolnir + Supermans speed vs Superman with Mjolnir 20-80

Heh.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Thor vs Superman 50-50
Thor with Supermans speed vs Superman 70-30
Thor without Mjolnir + Supermans speed vs Superman 30-70
Thor with Mjolnir + Supermans speed vs Superman with Mjolnir 20-80

Heh.

Why would Superman + Mjolnir get 80/20 on Thor + Mjolnir + Superman's speed?

Originally posted by Newjak
Meh I never thought Thor was so completely outclassed speed wise to begin with.

Of course I'll more than admit that he is the slowest of the high heralds here.

I've always considered it a good trade off. Thor isn't always the best in every category but he does almost everything very well. He isn't as strong as Superman but he is close. He isn't as versatile as Silver Surfer and GLs but he is close enough. The one thing that he always excelled at was raw power output and damage. I always thought that his lower level speed made the balancing out quite nice between everyone.

You take that away and I'd probably give him a healthy majority against everyone here. 9/10 for everyone maybe 10/10 with Superman because of the magic weakness. Just like if you took away a major character discrepency in any of the high herald they would take a healtier majority over the others.

This...

I agree with Rage post as well.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Why would Superman + Mjolnir get 80/20 on Thor + Mjolnir + Superman's speed?

Thor is as strong as Superman... Heavily holding back. Kal has the durability and strength advantage, heck, maybe even fighting skill.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Why would Superman + Mjolnir get 80/20 on Thor + Mjolnir + Superman's speed?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The eleventh dial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuzpsO4ErOQ

👆

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
I still don't think even with the speed added that he can beat Superman or Captain marvel/Black Adam. I think they are just naturally stronger. He beats anyone else that's a Herald.

He beats Wally, Surfer but he dosen't beat the runner.

As for an answer to the thread, I agree with HP's assessment here!

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
No way. I am a massive marvel mark, but Thor ain't beating Superman. Superman has gone up against guys just as tough or tougher than Thor. Thor has never went up against anybody like Superman. Besides the hammer would be the only think keeping Thor in the fight. Once Superman knocks it out of his hands it's really over. The fight in Jla/Marvel is an accurate interpertation of how a Superman/Thor fight would go down.

CM/BA durability is higher than Thors.

😂

doomsday would beat him 😉

Originally posted by lawest9
Someone enlighten me, WHO is the RUNNER.

As for an answer to the thread, I agree with HP's assessment here!

Elder of the Universe. His thing is running around the universe on nothing but space. Beat the hell out of Surfer, and proved faster and more nimble then him.

But I disagree with HP that Superman beats Surfer, because there's no way Supes should tag Surfer if he doesn't let him.. (That's not to say Surfer can speed blitz like Supes can, but he doesn't need to.. He can just keep gliding/circle strafing on his board, and pick his shots.)

Thor is not too far off against this guys cept against Flash when it comes to h2h speed infact I'm already giving him a slight edge against a majority of the characters listed on a normal fight, give him a + handicap and he takes a healthy majority..

Against: He takes -----

1. Surfer 8/10
2. Superman 10/10
3. Captain Marvel 9/10
4. Wally 10/10
5. Runner 7/10
6. Black Adam 9/10
7. Havok takes it 10/10 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Ambient
Thor is not too far off against this guys cept against Flash when it comes to h2h speed infact I'm already giving him a slight edge against a majority of the characters listed on a normal fight, give him a + handicap and he takes a healthy majority..

Against: He takes -----

1. Surfer 8/10
2. Superman 10/10
3. Captain Marvel 9/10
4. Wally 10/10
5. Runner 7/10
6. Black Adam 9/10
7. Havok takes it 10/10 😖hifty:

I agree with this except Havok.

Originally posted by Ambient
Thor is not too far off against this guys cept against Flash when it comes to h2h speed

Why? Havok is ridiculously powerful..

Originally posted by batdude123

What an AMAZING thread!!!

1. Still wins, as speed had nothing to do with the outcome.
2. Still loses, as speed had nothing to do with the outcome.
3. Still loses, as speed had nothing to do with the outcome.
4. Wins.
5. Wins.
6. Still loses, as speed had nothing to do with the outcome.

Originally posted by Ambient
Why? Havok is ridiculously powerful..

He has the "potential" to be a cosmic character (which was shown when he absorbed power from a star during the Vulcan saga) but he never showed Thor type power but I know you were playing. "I hope".

Ahh just can't get pass u Carve..jk

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Yes, he hits and gets hit.
Yes he doesn't knock Mjolnir out of his hand, he doesn't need to, he stops it dead cold.
The first time Superman said such a thing, really 🙄, and there was this "he MAY be the si..." in his sentence.
IronMan shot at him, but didn't ko him. He was koed by IromMan+WonderMan+Hercules+She-Hulk+Vision

Heh.

Thank you excellent post.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

You mean the one where Supes did get hit by Thor, where he did not knock Mjolnir out of Thor's hands and where Supes states Thor is the Single Toughest opponent he's ever defeated.. And where Supes is left in such a bad state from the fight that Iron Man can shoot him down.. And where the possibility of Thor winning a rematch is definetely left as a possibility??

That Jla/Marvel crossover right??

So he didn't knock it out of his hands? So what Gladiator sure did. So he said "Thor is the single toughest opponent he ever fought" he didnt say anything about defeated. And if he did say defeated the key word is defeated....Superman won. He was just talking shit. The single toughest opponent he ever fought killed him and left him dead on the street.

The possibility of a rematch.....well I guess we will never know, but my money is on the guy with the "S" on his chest. The guy who stopped Thor in mid hammer swing. The guy who said "My dial goes up to eleven" and meant it, because he put Thor down like none other.

Ironman attack....hey (I love Thor and hated to see him lose) you got the to give us Thor fanboys something to hang there hat on. It took the rest of the Avengers to put Superman down.

He still woke up from being knocked out as quick as Thor....who was only attacked by one person. Superman was gang raped.