Darth Malgus vs Sith

Started by PencilInEyelulz16 pages

'Splain

Originally posted by Sith Sorcerer
Who descended to his level? I rather enjoy turning on my sarcasm to full effect and humoring the child.
Honestly im quite humored despite the ownage you poured out 👆

As for Zam, you aren't really on my ignore list. I was just being a blatant jackass.

Originally posted by PencilInEyelulz
You're not. It's bizarre because both of them {despite LeGenD's stubborn beliefs to the contrary} share a heavy bias towards KotOR-era characters and it's amusing because now Neph has a taste of what it's like to deal with someone like that.

I think I've proven that I don't have that bias. Perhaps you should read the Malgus vs Dooku thread, in which I'm forced to defend pretty much the entire PT-era from Legends fanboyism.

Also it is irritating to find one as stubborn as myself. I thought I'd broken all my nemesises will's long past.

No, you've proven that you are capable of overcoming your biases for the purposes of a discussion {and likely only when confronted with someone you believe to be the embodiment of irritation}. That's significant progress and is indicative of a great mind. I'm glad to know years of jabbing and bashing Christopher Nolan/Heath Ledger/Batman has helped contribute to this objectivity.

I have trained you well, my son.

Yeah, well you're banned, so I win!

😛

........ 🙁

Edit: Am I going to get a response? Because this discussion has already been incredibly exhausting.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Edit: Am I going to get a response? Because this discussion has already been incredibly exhausting.

Yes. I promise you that it would be very friendly and logical this time. 🙂

Hopefully you show understanding this time.

Damn. You're so stubborn.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Damn. You're so stubborn.

It will be worth our time and I will address several misconceptions.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well your opinion is rather flawed.

Here is how I personally rate characters on the basis of skills and power:

1. Looser
2. Bad
3. Average
4. Good
5. Powerful
6. Exceptional
7. Titanic (Prodigious)
8. Most Powerful

To me, Count Dooku is powerful in the big picture. I use him as a benchmark to judge others. A very fair ranking plan on the basis of what we have seen in Star Wars mythos as a whole to date.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I have, but if you insist:

'Bane thrust out with the Force, and a dozen of the oncoming creatures exploded into dust and tiny flecks of small, twisted metal. '

'That enemy vanquished, he used the Force to disintegrate two more advancing technobeasts,'

Note the word 'technobeast'. Bane is not merely disintergrating opponents, he is disintergrating dozens of opponents made out of metal.

Game, Set, Match.


That is prodigious level feat. I have seen comparable feats from Satele Shan and Luke Skywalker thus far.

However, try to understand that those beasts cannot defend themselves using the Force. This is where the actual distinction comes in.

Malgus has fought with a prodigious level Jedi and survived. And he becomes stronger in Deceived. His exceptional command of the Force allows him to survive in extreme situations.

Those technobeasts are no match against those who are strong in the Force.

Not satisfied? Let us consider Darth Vader here. Do you think that Darth Bane can disintegrate him like that?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Actually it doesn't matter at all. And I've already posted him doing it. Go back and look if you care that much.

See above. Command of the Force is what actually makes a lot of difference.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Adraas was a weakling. He did nothing in that fight except throw Force Lightning and get his ass kicked.

Actually no. Darth Malgus was in extraordinary mental state before he engaged him.

Here;

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Adraas growled as he climbed to his feet. Power gathered around him, a black storm of energy, and he leapt at Malgus, his blade held high.

From SWTOR:

Under the command of Lord Angral, the Sith fleet approaches the Republic’s capital planet for the first time in centuries. In advance of the fleet, the strongest Sith Warriors have flown a stolen Republic ship into Coruscant’s orbit. Their mission is critical – to destroy the planet’s defense grid mainframe hidden in the heart of the Jedi Temple.

Malgus and Adraas were specially chosen for this campaign by the high command. You think that the Sith Empire would send trash to attack Jedi Temple (The very seat of Jedi power)?

This is Lord Adraas:

He is powerful:

He watched Lord Adraas leap into the middle of a squad of Republic soldiers and punctuate his landing with an explosion of Force energy that cast the soldiers away like dry leaves.

He also destroyed that ground in the process.

He is a skilled duelist and is capable of unleashing powerful blasts of Force lightning.

Adraas snarled and held forth his left hand. Force lightning crackled from his fingertips, filled the space between them.

He is not trash.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And I've told you before that you're an idiot who does not understand basic logic. That Bane's lightning is powerful enough to reduce an opponent to ash is beyond anything Malgus can do.

Bane’s Force lightning is certainly potent. However, the effectiveness of Force lightning on targeted opponents would vary on the basis of their defensive capabilities.

For example:

In one instance, Malgus unleashed a single blast of Force lightning which engulfed 3 Jedi and killed them all quickly. Their bodies were badly burned.

In another instance, Malgus unleashed a single blast of Force lightning which overwhelmed a single strong Jedi and ruined him. However, the Jedi was still alive.

Same logic applies to Bane.

Originally posted by Nephthys
What, does being powerful in the Force make you lightning proof. Jesus Christ you're thick. 🙄

It is an important factor. Remember how Oppress was tolerating repeated Force lightning attacks from Count Dooku? And he had yet to refine his command of the Force.

Originally posted by Nephthys
In the future if you're not done replying and you intend to leave and post later, inform me so our posts don't get muddled.

Ok. I will try.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Actually that was just me being a smartass. I'm well aware of Malgus' capabilities.

Unfortunately, this is not the case. And I intend to help you in this regard.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Post them.

The Sith Empire launched a campaign to capture several worlds. Retaking of Korriban was part of this campaign.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Indeed, thats what I said. Thank you for missing the point so completely that you actually agree with me. 👆

You are not yet clear on this. To become a Sith Inquisitor, one must have high potential and also show great determination because the trails are rigorous and it is not easy to succeed in them. The end result is a powerful Sith capable of exploiting his surroundings.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well Vindican displayed no powers beyond Lightning. So yeah, irrelevent.

Force lightning is preferred choice of attack by Sith Inquisitors but not necessary. He send Satele Shan packing with a single blast of Force lightning after Kao stopped Malgus from killing her. She was advised to retreat afterwards because she may not have survived in this encounter.

Besides this, he was physically very strong as he survived that lethal stab from a Lightsaber. Hard training made him tough.

In addition, there was a good display of refinement in his dueling abilities. He specialized with double-bladed Lightsabers. And he was fast.

Furthermore, his defensive abilities were very good. He tolerated a direct hit from a rocket and prevented the explosion to fully materialize with the Force. And he also tolerated Force attacks from Kao.

He is definitely good.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Quite irrelevent.

Sith Inquisitors craved power. Therefore, your point is nullified.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And how does this establish Vindican as impressive? It does not.

Vindican is impressive in his own right. Elaborated above already.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Its hard to take your arguments seriously when they're so shoddy and moronic.

That they are skilled and powerful is subjective. How powerful are they? How does this prove that Vindican was an extremely powerful opponent?


I will make sure that my responses this time are no longer as shoddy as you put.

Yes, skills of Sith Inquisitors can vary among them. However, they are a spectacle to behold in combat. Vindican is not necessarily among the best of his time but he displays decent skills, as elaborated above.

Originally posted by Nephthys
😬

When Vindican fought Kao alone, without Malgus' assistence, he died in five seconds! I counted. Malgus was actually able to defeat Kao, proving himself Vindicans superior. Just because Malgus didn't throw Force Lightning around does not mean he was less powerful than Vindican.


You are focusing on his final moments. You are forgetting that he dueled Kao on one-on-one basis in the start until up to the point when Satele Shan was advised to retreat.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'll take my good point. Vindican was not a skilled duelist. He wasn't able to last a measly 5 seconds alone against Kao. What a loser.

See above. Don't make shortsighted assumptions like these.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No shit, they were padawans. That doesn't make him impressive.

Skills are important. Not ranks.

Revan as a Jedi Knight was the most powerful warrior in the Jedi Order of his time.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I like it when you compliment me.

Thanks.

Originally posted by Nephthys
This is merely your opinion. The TOR trailer is better put together and more exciting, but that doesn't make Kao a better duelist.

No. The duel of Maul is impressive in its own right. However, Kao and Vindican are faster and more powerful then Maul. This is apparent from their skills and feats.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It did not.

It should.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Forget it. You're clearly too stupid to understand that we can't judge the original by the actions of a clone, despite yourself actually arguing such in the case of Starkiller and his clone.

I believe that original characters are more refined.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Was it now? I don't recall which Jedi said that. I could have sworn it was in the narration.

Yes. I believe, it was opinion of Darsha.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And what about Vaapad? Mace is still one of the best duellists in Star Wars.

Indeed. Vaapad gives him special edge against dark siders.

Originally posted by Nephthys
In your biased opinion. Just because it was 'cooler' doesn't make Kao better.

I am not talking in that sense.

Kao displays much greater speed and skill in comparison to Maul. Even Anakin and Obi-Wan display more impressive bladework in ROTS then Maul.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't think that. I do think Maul would defeat Kao though.

Not possible. Maul does not matches his skill and power.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm providing actual proof. All you're doing is posting the videos and going 'Look! Kao is so coool! Obviously he wins!'

I showed you the comparison. You are not focusing on the skills demonstrated. You are just looking at the so-called cool factor. I don't care about that. My intention is to show you the comparison between bladework and skills displayed by both characters in side-by-side manner. It supports my point.

You are too addicted to PT era character worhshipping. Even when they are slower and less impressive, they are better in your opinion. 🙄

Originally posted by Nephthys
Thanks for agreeing with me r-tard. 😉

Net time you try to be clever, make sure your point actually supports your argument.


No, the point is that Anakin gave in to his rage and clarity of his mind to defeat Count Dooku. Malgus also achieved such a mental state by the end of Deceived.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No I am not. I'm merely pointing out that the circumstances behind him doing the feat are unclear. You can't fault my logic in this.

Your logic is faulty. Canon source does not supports your assumption. It is not explicitly stated that the Jedi was already prepared to perform that feat.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Again, no attempt is made to refute my logic. How sad.

Not attempt has been made?

I posted the exact lines from the canon source.

Malgus actually sensed the presence of a Jedi in one of the regions from where his ship was passing by. He decided to investigate and approached that region. He then called out on the Jedi. The Jedi came out from a building and recognized Malgus. Malgus charged towards the Jedi. At that moment, the Jedi gestured towards the two buildings nearby and brought them down on Malgus in an act of defence.

This is what actually happened. You are making baseless assumptions about the event. No need to do this. Clear your mind and try to understand things properly.

I will respond to other arguments soon. Wait for them.

Originally posted by shinkoryu
42 posts in one week versus thousands of posts + 3-4 years. Sounds like you're the one with real issues.

Yeah im sure it does, but you don't get the point do you? The whole reason you "dribble your basketball" is because you never once got laid in your life and probably never will.
I would be surprised if you could even reach that tiny pecker of yours covered under all those slabs of fat hanging from your belly.

Alright, and shinkoryu receives his first warning!

Please do make posts like this- being "a blatant jack ***" does you no favors on this board. Other members do not appreciate it, and I do not tolerate it, as I've mentioned to you before.

Please refrain from doing so in the future.

Thanks!

Originally posted by REXXXX
Alright, and shinkoryu receives his first warning!

Please do make posts like this- being "a blatant jack ***" does you no favors on this board. Other members do not appreciate it, and I do not tolerate it, as I've mentioned to you before.

Please refrain from doing so in the future.

Thanks!

Alright thats fine. But shouldn't mr beefington get a warning to? He started attacking me too.

No.

seems as though Neph is more correct on all points. He actually has an argument, whereas his opponent just always posts:


"This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]

weak sauce. DE by default.

Originally posted by truejedi
seems as though Neph is more correct on all points. He actually has an argument, whereas his opponent just always posts:

weak sauce. DE by default.

Wait till you read his arguments. He just rehashes the same defeated arguments over and over.

lol,i don't read them. i haven't in literally years. my post above wasn't even a slight on him,i was just trying to be clever. i just got tired of those arguments in something like 2008.

Btw, I still say stops at Krayt ^^ (Who, at the least, I view as no weaker than Dooku, and post-rebirth quite possibly stronger)

I'm calling premature victory.