Originally posted by shinkoryu
So if you want to go by the movies, then therefore it negates your precious TOR trailers as well, seeing that such feats are never shown in the movies.
Those trailers are not like traditional cartoons. They are realistic animated (mini) movies.
Originally posted by shinkoryu
Hypocrisy at its greatest.
Wrong. TOR trailers are much more realistic then traditional cartoon.
Originally posted by shinkoryu
So because TFU proves that starkiller, sidious and Vader outmatch all your precious TOR characters, you choose to argue that its not consistent with the movies and yet at the same time, you are using TOR trailers, which ALSO show powers inconsistent with the movies but its somehow valid to you?
There is not much showing from Sidious in TFU. He is already regarded as the most powerful Sith Lord in Star Wars mythos to date. I agree with this. But he may have a potential competitors in SWTOR Sith Emperor and Darth Plagueis. Only time will tell.
Galen is indeed very powerful. He performed a titanic feat of altering the movements of an Imperial Star Destroyer, and the scope of this feat has never been replicated before or so it is assumed.
What this event actually confirms is that if a Jedi really concentrates on something; the Jedi can perform amazing feats. Within this scenario, it is possible that the Jedi may manage to tap in to his or her peak potential due to very clear state of mind, and this may also allow the Jedi to reach oneness with the Force till the concentration ends.
There are some Jedi sayings in this regard;
From Master Rahm Kota:
"It's all in your mind, boy. You're a Jedi! Size means nothing to you!"
From Master Yoda:
"Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is."
But in the combat situations, both the circumstances and primary objective are different. The circumstances are such that there is little time to make all the decisions and primary objective is to defeat the opponent. In addition, the factors of element of surprise and experience may also play part. It is under this scenario, that both the strengths and weaknesses of the Jedi come in to play.
And this is precisely how the duel between Galen and Vader turns out in the end in TFU.
Keep in mind that the Jedi is forced to focus on many things in a challenging combat scenario. This can be taxing on the consumption of the energies because the Force is repeatedly called upon a lot more times in comparison to other situations. There are lots of calculations going in the brain and the Jedi has to concentrate on plethora of moves from the opponent. Therefore, it is a challenge to tap in to peak potential under these circumstances. And within this scenario, the performance of the Jedi can heavily fluctuate depending upon various factors such as knowledge of the applications of the Force, experience, exposure, strengths, and weaknesses.
What actually happens in the duel is that both Galen and Vader try to take advantage of weak moments of each other. There are moments in which Galen performs well and then there are moments in which Vader holds his own. Both of them try to use the surroundings to their advantage and play psychological games with each other. The target of both is 'state of mind' of the opponent. Both of them look for for an opening in defences of each other. However, the strengths and weaknesses of both differ from each other.
There was a moment when Galen got enraged and managed to disarm Vader from his lightsaber.
The weaknesses of Vader were not much in his skills but were more pronounced in his mechanical body parts. Those parts provided benefits of greater physical strength and constant armor protection to Vader but at the cost of impressive speed*. In addition, his mechanical parts were vulnerable to explosions (as per TFU), and electrocution from powerful Force lightning attacks (as per the Movies).
*It is also apparent in the movies that the mechanical parts of Vader reduced his speed but increased his physical strength.
Amidst the combat, Galen managed to pull this off:
Vader prepared for combat again. His power over the apprentice, however, was gone. His lightsaber went skittering and sparking across the floor, twisted out of his grip by telekinesis. The Force wrenched him into the air, as he had once lifted the apprentice's father, and a barrage of missiles struck at him with increasing strength. He raised his gloved hands to defend himself, but the battery continued until, with a crash, the apprentice ripped the energy field generator in the center of the room right out of the floor and hurled it at his former Master.
The generator exploded with greater force than he had expected, throwing him and everyone else to the floor. The transparisteel dome shattered. Debris rained everywhere. The sound of the explosion rang in his ears for an unnaturally long time afterward.
He was the first to his feet, striding across the rubble to where Darth Vader lay face-forward, gravely wounded and stripped of his armor in places. Flesh and machinery showed through the gaps. Finally, some real blood was flowing.
As you see; one powerful explosion was enough to defeat Vader. Now in comparison, Malgus has tolerated powerful explosions on numerous occasions. His strengths and weaknesses differ from those of Vader.
Even though Vader puts up a decent fight in TFU, there is nothing in his final duel with Galen that suggests that he is more powerful then Malgus.
Let us focus on the duel of Malgus with two Jedi in Aldeeran. Malgus was seriously injured from his previous duel on the same planet with Satele Shan and her commando allies. However, he survived but was enraged.
On the retreat, he sensed the signature of a Jedi in one of the regions and he decided to investigate regardless of his condition. When he reached there, he called out on the Jedi. An unknown Zabrak Jedi showed up. Malgus was not in a "clear state of mind" because of his previous bad experience and charged towards his opponent without properly doing homework in his mind.
This Jedi seized the opportunity and with proper concentration, brought down Two Buildings on Malgus (remember the sayings above).
The Sith Lord ended up being surrounded by a mountain of rubble and several tons of it landed above him. The dust generated by falling debris added to his complications. But Malgus was very strong. He prevented himself from getting crushed by using the Force even when he was not in a clear state of mind. He soon realized his mistake and cleared his state of mind. He blew the rubble up and away from him. It fell with a crash on the adjacent buildings. Mass and weight became irrelevant at that point. And then he force jumped from out of the surrounding of mountain of rubble and landed in open space. His opponent was stunned for a moment.
After this an impressive duel followed and Malgus sensed a very faint signature of another Jedi nearby who was actually masking his presence with the Force. At this moment, Malgus decided to use his force powers. Using the Force, he crush the windpipe of the hidden Jedi and then overwhelmed his strong opponent with his overwhelming blasts of Force lightning and ruined him with it.
As you can see, Malgus is very good in combat. And the above account is just one of his showings. Considering his entire history, he can handle Darth Vader.
But you guys are so much stuck in game mechanics and fanboyism.
Originally posted by shinkoryu
This is why nobody takes you seriously legend.
The above explanation should open your eyes at least.