Originally posted by h1a8
Odin is old. The odin force perhaps kept him alive since he was never a true immortal. You are right in a sense, so I'll agree here with you. It's just that part of the Odin force is the original him. Remember the three of them merged to make the Odin force (himself included). So if you leave him with about only 1/3 of the Odin force then he should be his normal self before acquiring the Odin force. This may or may not be enough to keep him living forever (or being Immortal) be it should allow him to live as he once did but only much older and weaker.
Do you actually attempt to prove points or do you just ramble along hoping to divert the discussion when you lack the evidence?
The Odin Force is Odin. I’ve proved that much. Without any of it, he could even perish. I think I’ve made it perfectly clear that trying to push entities such as Hercules or Gladiator being stronger than an Odin without the Odin Power is silly a goal. So until you present some actual evidence, concession accepted.
I’m not partially right. Since this conversation began, I’ve more than likely been correct in every point I've made.
For the record, Odin with 1/3 of his power is still far and away more powerful than herald level entities.
Originally posted by h1a8
Because he fights like an idiot, just like many characters sometimes do (especially villains). He let's up and allows Thor to come back. He also doesn't use his full ability all the time, like speed. I envision how the fight would go if the two existed in reality. I'm more of a realist than anything. I'm only into comics because I desperately want super powers and use them to fantasize on having them. So that is why my arguments are the way they are. So sue me if I use a little more real logic instead of comic logic than everyone else.
So you don’t think Gladiator is actually anything less than at peak form while fighting Thor, he’s simply not fighting how you would if you had his powers?
Then why do you believe the character is twice as strong as Thor? You claimed he had a -quantifiable- strength feat greater than anything Thor has done. Is that the reason? Reference said feat and I feel confident that I can top it.
I do hope however that it’s not the planet destroying feat as it was you had focused on feats being quantifiable.
Originally posted by h1a8
I understand. That is why I take planet destroying Glads as high confidence Glads and anything much lower as not.
So this high confidence Gladiator that you claim is stronger than Odin and twice as strong as Thor is the one capable of destroying a planet in a few haymakers?
I just want to make your position clear.
Originally posted by h1a8
Now here is me making something up. That invalidates the feat on a magnitude of third order. So we are forced to accept it being hyperbole. Now if something contradicts a feat on a magnitude less than first order then the feat is still valid.💃 💃
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Idiocy.
Do you consider Clark –with aid- moving a planet as a valid feat?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusYup I'm referring to the Glads that destroyed a planet with a few shots. Thor IMO, hasn't top that feat (even with Mjolnir).
Do you actually attempt to prove points or do you just ramble along hoping to divert the discussion when you lack the evidence?The Odin Force is Odin. I’ve proved that much. Without any of it, he could even perish. I think I’ve made it perfectly clear that trying to push entities such as Hercules or Gladiator being stronger than an Odin without the Odin Power is silly a goal. So until you present some actual evidence, concession accepted.
I’m not partially right. Since this conversation began, I’ve more than likely been correct in every point I've made.
For the record, Odin with 1/3 of his power is still far and away more powerful than herald level entities.
So you don’t think Gladiator is actually anything less than at peak form while fighting Thor, he’s simply not fighting how you would if you had his powers?
Then why do you believe the character is twice as strong as Thor? You claimed he had a -quantifiable- strength feat greater than anything Thor has done. Is that the reason? Reference said feat and I feel confident that I can top it.
I do hope however that it’s not the planet destroying feat as it was you had focused on feats being quantifiable.
So this high confidence Gladiator that you claim is stronger than Odin and twice as strong as Thor is the one capable of destroying a planet in a few haymakers?
I just want to make your position clear.
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Idiocy.
Do you consider Clark –with aid- moving a planet as a valid feat?
And I don't believe Thor could ever do such a feat, even if it was in his character to try.
I do believe the Odin force amps your natural strength though. But writer's, including Stan Lee understood that Thor was physically stronger than Odin (but not more powerful). Odin had many physical confrontations and he never seemed stronger than a high confidence Glads. That's the meat and potatoes of my argument.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
omg YOU READ DARK SUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😛 😛 😛 , i think im in love, for this i will mate with you and produce massive aounts of offspring 😮💨
Yeah, it's the best Setting imho. I really liked Dennings books (and the Wanderers Journal^^) and love Lynn Abbey's Stories.
I collect everything Dark Sun related, though I never played the Pen and Paper game, I liked the PC Games too.
The relaunch of the setting was, except for the artworks in the books, disappointing, especially the comics, a Mul with a mohawk...
Anyway, I have to disappoint you. I don't want children 😉.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Yeah, it's the best Setting imho. I really liked Dennings books (and the Wanderers Journal^^) and love Lynn Abbey's Stories.
I collect everything Dark Sun related, though I never played the Pen and Paper game, I liked the PC Games too.
The relaunch of the setting was, except for the artworks in the books, disappointing, especially the comics, a Mul with a mohawk...Anyway, I have to disappoint you. I don't want children 😉.
nevertheless...i still find it cool you read those books, i spen t most of my childhood in the basement going thru those novels. And i dont produce childrem, i produce thri-kreen 😈
Originally posted by Sin I AM
nevertheless...i still find it cool you read those books, i spen t most of my childhood in the basement going thru those novels. And i dont produce childrem, i produce thri-kreen 😈
Which ones do you like best and what Char?
Thri-Kreen? I would have rather believed you are the breeding machine for Mules, you sure as hell would have a chance to survive 😄.