If Gladiator showed Superspeed in the past ( and in many others issues), and not used in others fights, that is just PIS and nothing more. Cant see your point here.
But I agree, even if he is much faster than Zeus, he cant win ( but I believe Zeus has at least same speed, if not much more. Odin always reacted to FTL people without problems...).
I don't see how Zeus wouldn't be as strong Gladiator. He foughtThor, he could go hand to hand just fine. That's before artist felt like Zeus's every punch with lighting. Zeus's electric with his punches is no different to Black Adam/ Captain Marvel/Thor's strikes are.
Even if you make somehow the argument that Zeus could be blitz, there is still the fact that Monica Ramibeau(Who is faster Hermes/Pietro, and does have non-liner speed feats like dodge pietro 's blows) couldn't really blitz Zeus for it to matter.
Originally posted by Stoic
Does anyone recall what happened to Gladiator when he went up against a greater power than his in the form of the Phoenix Five? Well I'd place Zeus above them individually. Gladiator would be bullied against Zeus. i'm really trying to understand how this is even an argument?
Agreed. This is spite really.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The only "argument" one could even attempt to make is that Zeus - and other skyfathers - need to "amp" in order to be physically on the level of herald class beings.Which is absolutely not true and not supported by comics at all, handbooks/bios be damned.
So true. They simply operate at a higher level than the Heralds. Odin did not amp to slam Thor around like a little child on several occasions. Zeus would be able to do the same to Gladiator.
Originally posted by carver9So you are going to throw away decades of comic history over a feat that doesn't even prove Hulk is fast as spidey? Spidey has consistently been shown to be far faster than Hulk in direct confrontation. You can't ignore this. This is established history. And I thought you valued direct comparison's as much as feats. Only when it suits you huh?
LOL...again, what Zeus best strength ft?LOL at Spiderman being faster than Hulk. In the past, an argument probably could have been made but not anymore. Dont even know why I am wasting my time debating with you.
Spidey's best speed feats shit all over Hulk's anyway.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankIt's not baseless. Using even the tiniest form of common sense and it is clear that a statue can't be anyone. With speed are reactions. Plus there is many many examples in comics where speed utterly owns people.
Speed blitzing is one of the most overrated and usually baseless arguments made in forums.