Originally posted by Silent MasterNo! I didn't realize it was arguably PIS until AFTER you mentioned it. So there was no notion of "on purpose". Lastly, I don't believe it is PIS in light of Glad's other showings (planet busting feat, etc.).
So you're using what you admit is currently a PIS showing, IOW you're knowingly breaking forum rules.
Originally posted by h1a8
No! I didn't realize it was arguably PIS until AFTER you mentioned it. So there was no notion of "on purpose". Lastly, I don't believe it is PIS in light of Glad's other showings (planet busting feat, etc.).
Planet busting isn't above high-herald level, so we are back to you not seeing anything PIS worthy about a scene where according to you Gladiator becomes hundreds of times stronger without any in-story explanation.
Try again.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
On what basis would you disagree? I mean, they could use the force to amp their stats drastically (For example, I'd wager Emma and Cyclops were not far off from Namor/Peter in strength) but Thor still shattered Emma. We saw Phoenix Emma fight other beings in regular form and she came up off as no less durable then Cyclops IIRC. So? You do realize that physical durability and telekinetic power does not have to have a direct correlation right? And Cyclops was trying to reason with Gladiator for a large chunk of that.Well, they turned his head I guess:
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/WOLVERINEX-MEN-ZONE-014.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/WOLVERINEX-MEN-ZONE-016.jpgOkay? Thor after being bombarded by Phoenix Emma Frosts shards falling down from space still took multiple blows from Emma. You want to know the difference between the two? Thor was back on his feet fighting right after. Gladiator however spent the rest of the event in intensive care and on life support.
I can prove that Emma was no where near the power level of Cyke.
Here's the proof:
Thor's shattered emma
Thor with nearly the same blow couldn't budge Cyke's finger. Thus Cyke is vastly more durable.
Cyke stopped all of Thor's might with his finger which proves strength enough to almost one shot Thor (Cyke's finger>>>>>>All of Thor's might). Emma failed to ko Thor. This proves Cyke is stronger.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Planet busting isn't above high-herald level, so we are back to you not seeing anything PIS worthy about a scene where according to you Gladiator becomes hundreds of times stronger without any in-story explanation.Try again.
There is no such thing as high herald level strength. A high herald can have any degree of strength above 100 tons.
There is no such thing as Skyfather level strength either, since a high herald can be stronger than a skyfather.
Originally posted by h1a8
I can prove that Emma was no where near the power level of Cyke.
Here's the proof:Thor's shattered emma
Thor with nearly the same blow couldn't budge Cyke's finger. Thus Cyke is vastly more durable.Cyke stopped all of Thor's might with his finger which proves strength enough to almost one shot Thor (Cyke's finger>>>>>>All of Thor's might). Emma failed to ko Thor. This proves Cyke is stronger.
Or....Emma did it deliberately so that she could do her rain of diamond attack.
Originally posted by h1a8
There is no such thing as high herald level strength. A high herald can have any degree of strength above 100 tons.There is no such thing as Skyfather level strength either, since a high herald can be stronger than a skyfather.
Several herald level characters have planet busting feats, including Thor. so Gladiator being a planet buster in no way proves that he can become 100's of times stronger than Thor.
Try again.
Originally posted by Silent MasterThor has no planet busting feats with his fists. Using Mjolnir is a both a mechnical advantage but a magical one as well. Thor never busted a planet even with Mjolnir. Big difference there too.
Several herald level characters have planet busting feats, including Thor. so Gladiator being a planet buster in no way proves that he can become 100's of times stronger than Thor.Try again.
Originally posted by h1a8
Thor has no planet busting feats with his fists. Using Mjolnir is a both a mechnical advantage but a magical one as well. Thor never busted a planet even with Mjolnir. Big difference there too.
See, now you're just lying as Thor has busted planets before, the scans were posted not that long ago.
Originally posted by Silent MasterThor has never busted a planet. In the Gorr fight that's the closest we seen. But the planet just had been damaged (not totally busted) and a nearby moon as well. The feat is a little vague IMO since it wasn't mentioned that Thor was the one who did it.
See, now you're just lying as Thor has busted planets before, the scans were posted not that long ago.
Originally posted by h1a8
Thor has never busted a planet. In the Gorr fight that's the closest we seen. But the planet just had been damaged (not totally busted) and a nearby moon as well. The feat is a little vague IMO since it wasn't mentioned that Thor was the one who did it.
LOL!! Anyway, the point is that planet busting isn't proof of strength 100's of times greater than Thor, so you trying to use that as proof is rather laughable.
Now, are you still going to argue that you didn't recognize Gladiator supposedly becoming hundreds of times stronger without any in-story explanation as possible PIS?
Originally posted by Silent Master
LOL!! Anyway, the point is that planet busting isn't proof of strength 100's of times greater than Thor, so you trying to use that as proof is rather laughable.Now, are you still going to argue that you didn't recognize Gladiator supposedly becoming hundreds of times stronger without any in-story explanation as possible PIS?
It is proof unless Thor's gets a planet busting feat or something comparable.
Thor uses Mjolnir which greatly aids in his striking power.
Imo, I always viewed Glads as significantly stronger than Thor. Hundreds of times may take the cake and most certainly be ridiculous but that's why we have high and low showings I guess (within reason). So yes it can be argued PIS or borderline PIS (just a high end showing).
I don't necessarily believe average Gladiator is stronger than Zeus. But I do believe that Zeus will be affected by his punches (especially a high end Glads). Now add in speed and Glads makes this a fight.
Originally posted by h1a8
It is proof unless Thor's gets a planet busting feat or something comparable.
Thor uses Mjolnir which greatly aids in his striking power.Imo, I always viewed Glads as significantly stronger than Thor. Hundreds of times may take the cake and most certainly be ridiculous but that's why we have high and low showings I guess (within reason). So yes it can be argued PIS or borderline PIS (just a high end showing).
I don't necessarily believe average Gladiator is stronger than Zeus. But I do believe that Zeus will be affected by his punches (especially a high end Glads). Now add in speed and Glads makes this a fight.
Would you care to battlezone the topic of whether or not Gladiator is hundreds of times stronger than Thor?
Originally posted by h1a8
It is proof unless Thor's gets a planet busting feat or something comparable.
Thor uses Mjolnir which greatly aids in his striking power.Imo, I always viewed Glads as significantly stronger than Thor. Hundreds of times may take the cake and most certainly be ridiculous but that's why we have high and low showings I guess (within reason). So yes it can be argued PIS or borderline PIS (just a high end showing).
I don't necessarily believe average Gladiator is stronger than Zeus. But I do believe that Zeus will be affected by his punches (especially a high end Glads). Now add in speed and Glads makes this a fight.
Hercules is stronger than Zeus and Glads is stronger than Hercules.
Just a fist fight; no other powers Gladiator wins
