Sebastian Shaw (movie) vs Thor (movie)

Started by Silent Master16 pages

His form didn't change, his powers just returned.

Originally posted by Silent Master
His form didn't change, his powers just returned.

His godly form and human form looked the same, his godly form just had powers. And when he went back to that form, he was fully restored, injuries and all.

The forms remained the same, Odin just removed Thor's powers.

Its the same body I think. I think that the injuries that he sustained while de-powered meant nothing when his powers came back. Which is why he healed. But I dont think he had hulk like regenerative powers. Good durability maybe, but healing? No.

Personally, I figured it was the act of him going from mortal to immortal; I don't think Thor had a healing factor on terms with Hulk or Logan.

The enchantment said nothing about healing injuries, it just said that the worthy would posses the power of Thor....so the healing must be part of his powers.

That's possible, I guess, but I don't think that was the intent of that scene. I figured it was a single act of him achieving godhood which saved his life and brought him back to full power/vitality. Kinda like when Jake Olsen, who was injured, transformed into Thor, whose body showed no signs of injury.

If Thor could make a hurricane he could make a vacuum and suffocate Shaw.

Shaw for the win.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
That's possible, I guess, but I don't think that was the intent of that scene. I figured it was a single act of him achieving godhood which saved his life and brought him back to full power/vitality. Kinda like when Jake Olsen, who was injured, transformed into Thor, whose body showed no signs of injury.

Maybe he'll get injured in the Avengers movie and we'll find out.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Maybe he'll get injured in the Avengers movie and we'll find out.

Probably, yeah. 👆

Originally posted by Silent Master
Maybe he'll get injured in the Avengers movie and we'll find out.

I hope they don't portray Thor the way they do when he's in a team book. Namely, powering him down.

That, and I'm hoping that they don't waste time with hero vs hero fights.

Also Thor controlling the weather, couldn't he just Freeze Shaw? In fact theres a few different ways he could just trap/cage him.

Thor (by his character) is going to mostly go and bash Shaw with the hammer from up close. Shaw will capitalize on it immediately and Thor will be in serious trouble.

Thor only healed because he went from powerless to with his power back. The writer's never intended to create Thor with a healing factor like that. This is movie logic and we can't assign a healing factor to him because of that.

The enchantment just states that the worthy would get Thor's power, not that they get his power and would be healed of all injuries...Therefore his powers must include some level of healing.

BTW, Thor only bashed people in HTH that could be handled that way, when that didn't work he had zero problem changing tactics

Originally posted by Silent Master
The enchantment just states that the worthy would get Thor's power, not that they get his power and would be healed of all injuries...Therefore his powers must include some level of healing.

BTW, Thor only bashed people in HTH that could be handled that way, when that didn't work he had zero problem changing tactics

I disagree. Gaining your powers back automatically heals you and gives up a fresh start. Call it movie logic if you will but it was never intended for Thor to have a healing factor.

Thor will most certainly start the fight by trying to bash Shaw. Then it will be too late.

Yo.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Also Thor controlling the weather, couldn't he just Freeze Shaw? In fact theres a few different ways he could just trap/cage him.

possible, but it would take time, and as we saw even the CoAW couldnt hold Heimdall permanently when it was done to him; how long it does so might depend on how empowered Shaw happened to be at the time.........

Tazer

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree. Gaining your powers back automatically heals you and gives up a fresh start. Call it movie logic if you will but it was never intended for Thor to have a healing factor.

Or call it Thor having some level of advanced healing.

Thor will most certainly start the fight by trying to bash Shaw. Then it will be too late.

Why would it be to late? powered Thor never really got injured, let alone KO'd...so we have no idea how much force it would take.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Or call it Thor having some level of advanced healing.
Advanced healing from powerless form to powered form only though.

Why would it be to late? powered Thor never really got injured, let alone KO'd...so we have no idea how much force it would take.

Nice point. But then there would be no debate. For the sake of having a reasonable debate then it is reasonable to assume that whatever force level Thor can dish out can also hurt him. This is like many characters in comics and real life in the same strength range can hurt each other. The only character I know whose durability greatly outweighs his strength is Juggernaut.