Sebastian Shaw (movie) vs Thor (movie)

Originally posted by the ninjak
No other mutants. Riptide gets killed by the initial blast I posted anyways. He won't survive that.
Once Thor hits the air he sucks Shaw up and sucks the air out of his lungs with a huge focused hurricane that he showed enough control to hold the Destroyer.

If Riptide somehow survives the blast. Thor thunks his head off with the thrown hammer. It returns he continues the hurricane.

I wasn't saying he'd put Riptide up against Thor. I was saying that as Riptide worked for Shaw, Shaw more than likely had a way of dealing with tornadoes. And considering all the stuff he absorbed, absorbing the energy of a tornado would be easy.

Shaw was absorbing the energy from a nuclear reactor, so his upper limits are pretty high end. Thor's best bet is incapacitation via pinning Shaw with Mjolnir.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Shaw was absorbing the energy from a nuclear reactor, so his upper limits are pretty high end. Thor's best bet is incapacitation via pinning Shaw with Mjolnir.

That too 😉 Plus Shaw needs oxygen.

Movie thor for the win. thisThor actually used his powers very very smart unlike how writers treat Thor half the time. Thor simply lays Mjolnir on Shaw foot and waits for him to die from lack of food, water etc... and did movie shaw show anything about asorbing magic if not one magic kighting bolt will kill him

Once Thor figures out what Sebastian can do, he simply forces him to the ground, places the hammer on him, then slowly presses his finger through his head.

Going by how Mags dealt with him, that should bypass his powers.

Or, he could skip the hammer thing and just try strangling him.

No reason to believe Shaw had anything close to Thor's strength level, even when amped.

How did Magneto bypass his powers? Didn't Shaw infer in the movie that all he needs is energy to prolong his life?
It seems like most of you didn't even watch the movie

Shaw getting picked up by a hurricane is only going to serve to give him more energy and thats assuming it would even move him since he tanked an RPG and a grenade point blank without moving at all.

Thor even laying Mjolnir on him seems to imply that you think Thor has any type of speed advantage in this fight.

Originally posted by SasuOna
How did Magneto bypass his powers? Didn't Shaw infer in the movie that all he needs is energy to prolong his life?

Spoiler:
Magneto rested a coin against Shaw's head, and slowly pushed it through. Clearly, this was done to bypass his ability to absorb kinetic force, otherwise he could've simply ended it by turning the coin into a bullet.

So, Thor simply throttling him should work just as well.

Originally posted by SasuOna
How did Magneto bypass his powers? Didn't Shaw infer in the movie that all he needs is energy to prolong his life?
It seems like most of you didn't even watch the movie

Shaw getting picked up by a hurricane is only going to serve to give him more energy and thats assuming it would even move him since he tanked an RPG and a grenade point blank without moving at all.

Thor even laying Mjolnir on him seems to imply that you think Thor has any type of speed advantage in this fight.

I think a hurricane > RPG and point blank grenades and gunfire. I think Thor's destruction of the Jotunheim landscape dwarfs anything we've seen Shaw tank all at once in the movie. Outside of applying no limits fallacy on Shaw's behalf, he didn't absorb anything all at once to suggest he could tank everything from Thor. I'd wager his powers do have limits as he had to slowly drain the nuclear reactor and didn't do it instantly as he did with explosions and conventional energy blasts. Assuming he'll absorb a hurricane is reaching, imo, especially if we're basing it on because he "must have had the means to put Riptide in his place".

Thor does have a massive speed advantage on Shaw.

Originally posted by cdtm

Spoiler:
Magneto rested a coin against Shaw's head, and slowly pushed it through. Clearly, this was done to bypass his ability to absorb kinetic force, otherwise he could've simply ended it by turning the coin into a bullet.

So, Thor simply throttling him should work just as well.

You are forgetting that Sebastion was frozen in place and unable to use his power because of Xavior otherwise it wouldn't have worked. Ir was also why Xavior felt Sebastion's pain somewhat, he was still inside his mind.

Originally posted by McNasty996
You are forgetting that Sebastion was frozen in place and unable to use his power because of Xavior otherwise it wouldn't have worked. Ir was also why Xavior felt Sebastion's pain somewhat, he was still inside his mind.

Unless it's a passive power.

Kind of like how Parasite doesn't actually switch his powers on, they're always running.

And it would explain why Mags did what he did. I suppose one could argue he just wanted Shaw to suffer, or enjoy the moment...

It was never shown to be passive though, every time the ability is displayed he is actually aware in a combat situation. Even then Magneto moved a submarine which a far more force feat than anything that Thor displayed.

Originally posted by McNasty996
Even then Magneto moved a submarine which a far more force feat than anything that Thor displayed.

You think Magneto moving a submarine > Thor wrecking the majority of the Jotunheim plateau?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You think Magneto moving a submarine > Thor wrecking the majority of the Jotunheim plateau?

Are you talking about the same place that was falling apart and hallow underneath the moment that the Asgardians landed as well as being made of ice?

Originally posted by McNasty996
Are you talking about the same place that was falling apart and hallow underneath the moment that the Asgardians landed as well as being made of ice?

I'm talking about when Thor slammed Mjolnir down and caused a massive earthquake which shattered tons and tons of ice and earth. Hollow or not, in terms of sheer destructive power, I don't recall either Magneto performing a power feat on that level - many finesse and skill based ones, though - nor do I recall Shaw absorbing such power all at once on that level.

Thor has no speed advantage or any speed feats in his movie for that matter

Magneto is a bullet timer
and Shaw was reacting to explosions that went off right in his face which would make him easily hypersonic.

A hurricane does not generate more force then an RPG explosion. If one thing can't faze you why would a significantly weaker force lift you off the ground?

Thor is not getting by Shaw's powers

Originally posted by SasuOna
Thor has no speed advantage or any speed feats in his movie for that matter

Magneto is a bullet timer
and Shaw was reacting to explosions that went off right in his face which would make him easily hypersonic.

A hurricane does not generate more force then an RPG explosion. If one thing can't faze you why would a significantly weaker force lift you off the ground?

Thor is not getting by Shaw's powers

Erm... He was moving pretty fast.. Hater..

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'm talking about when Thor slammed Mjolnir down and caused a massive earthquake which shattered tons and tons of ice and earth. Hollow or not, in terms of sheer destructive power, I don't recall either Magneto performing a power feat on that level - many finesse and skill based ones, though - nor do I recall Shaw absorbing such power all at once on that level.

I'm stating that that's not a big feat due to the circumstances surrounding it, such as the fact that the city was already clearly falling apart. I actually rate the CIA building feat higher in terms of destructive power.

Originally posted by SasuOna

A hurricane does not generate more force then an RPG explosion.

RPG explosions don't level entire towns.

Originally posted by cdtm
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RPG explosions don't level entire towns.

because an RPG explosion isn't big enough or for that matter would it last as long as a hurricane to accomplish that.

If a hurricane touched down for less then a second in a town the town would not be destroyed at all it would be like a bad storm happened for a few moments.

Hurricane winds aren't even above 200mph but somehow the force is immediately supposed to surpass something like an RPG explosion?

Shaw getting overwhelmed by a hurricane is ludicrous maybe everything around him would be effected but with his powers hes not being moved at all.