Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Beast is not with the X-Men anymore...and there's the Dark Angel Saga which will probably end badly for Warren.See the Fear Itself Uncanny X-Force 1 issue? That scan with Deadpool and the Beast and Nightcrawler teddy bears kind of indicates why they're moving away from the X-Men being "heroes".
Originally posted by srankmissingninThis is a little random for Astonishing X-Men, Storm is reverting back to her old hair doo?
Now were on the topic of Scott personality, its true that he wasn't out spoken back in the days, recently or the past year in Astonishing X-Men, the writer has boost Scott personality, like during Collosus mission to the Ord planet.
* Scott and Emma are not yet married... Ororo is still married to T'Challa, although recently, they are not living together due to T'Challa's new role as the guardian of Hell's Kitchen in Daredevil's absence...
* i just hope their (Scott and Ororo's) liplock won't ruin their respective relationships... i love Scott being with Emma, and i respect Emma's fidelity even with the advances of that pr!ck Namor...
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Maybe it's just because I don't read X-Men comics and therefore dun really have any wtf is going on, but, am I the only one who thinks it's weird that you people are more shocked over Storm's hair than Cyclops who is married to Emma Frost burying his tongue down Storm's throat? 😐
Marvel has been ruining the Cyclops chracter for a few years now; I'm honestly not surprised by anything anymore.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Marvel has been ruining the Cyclops chracter for a few years now; I'm honestly not surprised by anything anymore.
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Without mentioning his powers, appearances or back story, try to describe Cyclops prior to Marvel "ruining" the character. I can tell you right now, that is going to be one short list of adjectives. Heroic? Responsible? Naive? Textbook, you've just described 90% of cookie cutter superheroes. Might as well save your time and use the only word that matters when talking about classic Cyclops, "generic." Marvel didn't ruin Cyclops' character, they gave him one.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
🙄Without mentioning his powers, appearances or back story, try to describe Cyclops prior to Marvel "ruining" the character. I can tell you right now, that is going to be one [b]short
list of adjectives. Heroic? Responsible? Naive? Textbook, you've just described 90% of cookie cutter superheroes. Might as well save your time and use the only word that matters when talking about classic Cyclops, "generic." Marvel didn't ruin Cyclops' character, they gave him one. [/B]
In a word, that post is: Bullshit, though I'd expect as much given your attitude towards the character. mmm
Just because he doesn't smoke cigars and go "snikt" every so often, or kill people for the fun of it, apparently he's a character vacuum, even though writers like morrison, simonsen, byrne and claremont gave him plenty of development. Even if you just want to talk about the 80s, the Simonsen run on X-Factor dispels any notion of him not being a character with depth. You not liking it doesn't mean it's not there.
Using simple adjectives wouldn't begin to describe the depth of the character.
I'm sorry that you think he has no development just because he wasn't "cool".
Originally posted by -Pr-
In a word, that post is: Bullshit, though I'd expect as much given your attitude towards the character. mmmJust because he doesn't smoke cigars and go "snikt" every so often, or kill people for the fun of it, apparently he's a character vacuum, even though writers like morrison, simonsen, byrne and claremont gave him plenty of development. Even if you just want to talk about the 80s, the Simonsen run on X-Factor dispels any notion of him not being a character with depth. You not liking it doesn't mean it's not there.
Using simple adjectives wouldn't begin to describe the depth of the character.
I'm sorry that you think he has no development just because he wasn't "cool".
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A sad attempt to devalue the character of Wolverine by mentioning a series inconsequential character traits that don't factor at all into the intricacy of what makes him a fascinating character, doesn't really help you cement your case. Cyclops didn't "smoke cigars, go "snikt" or kill people for the fun of it, blah blah blah blah blah blah" when he was a bland character void and he still doesn't now that he is interesting. Scott Summer's was a stock character, he did not have unique or interesting character traits nor motivations. He was a nothing character that existed primarily so the reader could impose their own personality on the character (That's why you like liked him the way he was FYI). Scott Summers was a boring an uninspired character, him not being "badass" had nothing to do with it, he still isn't a badass now, and is a much better character with MUCH more depth now that Marvel has taken time to flesh out his personality, believes and motivations. Claremont, Simonson and Bryne all created some of the best X-Men stories, and Cyclops was in them, but he wasn't the reason they were good stories and most of them didn't next to nothing to define his character passed the basic archetype. Prior to the last decade the only time he was even hinted at being more then a cliche stock character was in Wrath of Apocalypse. The only author you mentioned that actually did anything with the character was Morrison, and what he did is turn him in to a douche-bag and pave the road for where he is now. Cyclops being "uncool" had nothing to do with why he was a bland character, he was a bland character because he was a book cover with a two sentence synopsis on the back... and no pages in-between.
You don't fool me, you just can't come up with any adjectives other then the ones I mentioned. 😎
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
🙄A sad attempt to devalue the character of Wolverine by mentioning a series inconsequential character traits that don't factor at all into the intricacy of what makes him a fascinating character, doesn't really help you cement your case. Cyclops didn't "smoke cigars, go "snikt" or kill people for the fun of it, blah blah blah blah blah blah" when he was a bland character void and he still doesn't now that he is interesting. Scott Summer's was a stock character, he did not have unique or interesting character traits nor motivations. He was a nothing character that existed primarily so the reader could impose their own personality on the character (That's why you like liked him the way he was FYI). Scott Summers was a boring an uninspired character, him not being "badass" had nothing to do with it, he still isn't a badass now, and is a much better character with MUCH more depth now that Marvel has taken time to flesh out his personality, believes and motivations. Claremont, Simonson and Bryne all created some of the best X-Men stories, and Cyclops was in them, but he wasn't the reason they were good stories and most of them didn't next to nothing to define his character passed the basic archetype. Prior to the last decade the only time he was even hinted at being more then a cliche stock character was in Wrath of Apocalypse. The only author you mentioned that actually did anything with the character was Morrison, and what he did is turn him in to a douche-bag and pave the road for where he is now. Cyclops being "uncool" had nothing to do with why he was a bland character, he was a bland character because he was a book cover with a two sentence synopsis on the back... and no pages in-between.
You don't fool me, you just can't come up with any adjectives other then the ones I mentioned. 😎
Or I just don't have the time or the inclination to give you the satisfaction of your baiting having any real effect.
You're wrong, and that's all there is to it, but please, continue if it makes you happy.
Love the hypocrisy on your part btw.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Or I just don't have the time or the inclination to give you the satisfaction of your baiting having any real effect.You're wrong, and that's all there is to it, but please, continue if it makes you happy.
Love the hypocrisy on your part btw.
Classic Cyclops is Helo from Battlestar Galactica, the only interesting thing about him, was the women attached to his lips. 😎