Originally posted by Oslaught1262I have no idea, it was poor choice for Wolverine as leader, when he is in many Marvel titles/teams, but the concept of 2 X-Men team is okay.
so after this there are going back at having two teams of x-men? why is Wolverine leading one of them?
Maybe Scott vs. Emma again like in Dark X-Men would of been fine.
I don't like the idea of Wolverine leading a team. A five man hit squad like X-Force is one thing, they don't really have any "pig picture" goals other than "kill bad guys", but coordination several factions of X-Men is a completely different ball game. All respect to Emma but Wolverine is the X-Men's second in command but Wolverine isn't the type of leader who plans five moves ahead, he will make the best move he can make on each turn and worry about what that means in the long run later. Give him an order and he will get the job down, tell him what the larger game plan is and he will work with in that game plan to organize successful ops, but drafting that big picture plan of action isn't really something he is capable of. He is an ideal second in command and field leader, but putting him in charge should play out similar to when Saul Tigh had to step up and replace Adama briefly in Battlestar Galactica.
Truthful the entire concept of Schism isn't very well thought out. Even if Wolverine has a justified grip with how Cyclops' is leading, the X-Men are a military running a sovereign nation and charged with the protection of the last civilian population of an endangered species. That never comes up. The X-Men aren't the only mutants on Utopia, they are all there. Even if Wolverine feels he doesn't agree with the decisions Cyclops is making, how does he justify taking half of the X-Men to go off and play superhero and leave Cyclops with a half strength team to guard the same number of civies?
Schism
Cyclops, accompanied by Wolverine, delivers a speech at the United Nations where he reveals that he is aware of each country having a supply of sentinels. He asks the world leaders dismantle the sentinels in their nations to better improve relations with the mutant race. Just then, Quentin Quire arrives to unleash a telepathic attack. Cyclops and Wolverine are left unaffected due to their psychic defenses, but everyone else in the room begins to spout out embarrassing secrets about themselves on national television. After this, Sentinels are unleashed with orders track down a male mutant. Fitting this description, Cyclops and Wolverine are attacked, but are able to easily defeat the robots. Quentin addresses the world on television, relaying his ideology of mutant liberation against humanity. Later, the nations of the world begin to unleash their sentinels for fear of any more mutant terrorist attacks.
Cyclops makes the call to place all mutants on high alert, with Storm stating that they shouldn't cause panic. Cyclops stays pragmatic, stating that they must be cautious with so many people taking up arms against mutants. Wolverine becomes wary when Cyclops allows Idie to watch the newscast of the sentinels, but Cyclops feels that is is important for her to understand that the world fears and hates her for being a mutant. Later, Quire arrives on Utopia seeking asylum. An enraged Wolverine demands that they hand Quentin over to Steve Rogers. Cyclops insists that they should deal with Quire themselves, further angering Wolverine. Meanwhile, Kade Kilgore, a psychotic child prodigy and billionaire, has been named the new "Black King" of the Hellfire Club. It turns out he is responsible for Quentin Quire's attack on the UN, and he plans to wipe out the mutant race.
At the unveiling of a new mutant museum in San Francisco, Cyclops has sent his "A-team" consisting of Emma Frost, Magneto, Namor, Colossus, and Iceman to improve the public appearance of the X-Men and the mutant race in general. Cyclops watches from his command at Utopia, and Wolverine watches from a bar. Kade and his Hellfire team attack the museum, successfully incapacitating the entire team of X-Men with their superior knowledge and technology. Cyclops and Wolverine both race to the museum, with Idie managing to make radio contact with them to reveal that she has remained unnoticed and that the Hellfire terrorists have a bomb. Wolverine urges for Cyclops to tell Idie to escape, and that he can make it to the museum. Cyclops realizes neither he nor Wolverine will get there in time, and tells Idie do what she feels she must. Idie manages to take down the Hellfire soldiers and save the civilians before the bomb goes off. Cyclops and Wolverine arrive just in time to help Idie and the civilians to safety as the bomb explodes.
Wolverine displays his anger to Cyclops for allowing Idie to take matters into her own hands, but Cyclops stands by his decision as Idie saved many civilians. They both soon realize, however, that the bomb the Hellfire Club left was no ordinary bomb, but actually a sentinel.
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Kind of stupid, that the last straw that broke their backs were probably about Jean.
Where Armor anyways? She could of grown to a size bigger than the sentinel and easily overpower it.
Plus I don't think Hope would of yield to Wolverine request, she a damn fighter, from what we know of her anyways.
Originally posted by Bentley
I supposed that since Logan and Scott were going to be separated by some ideological nonsense Logan would be blalantly right and Summers would be implicitly wrong. Wolverine is acting as if the entire X-men history never happened.
Originally posted by Bentley
Its entirely right when Captain America leads some civilians to stall super villains when the Avengers aren't there, but the Mutant civies in the other hand, shouldn't fight their own fights.Mutants are portrayed a lot like jews back in WWII.
The X-Men could easily fall back to Graymalkin Industries, their super head quarters on the main land, while they wait for reinforcements. Instead Cyclops wants to use a group of untrained 14 year olds as canon fodder to buy time for the real X-Men to save Utopia. Wolverine doesn't think Utopia is worth the lives of the children Cyclops wants to sacrifice to protect it. Logan told Scott he would stay and fight to death at his side, but that the kids need to be order off the island. It's not that Wolverine doesn't believe there is a potential situation where those kids might have to fight to the death, it's that this is not that situation.
Cyclops, the man Xaiver taught to be a soldier. Wolverine, the soldier Xaiver taught to be a man. 😎
