Sebastian Shaw vs Magneto round 2

Originally posted by Robtard
I was a bit confused how Magneto was able to push the coin through Shaw's head, Shaw should have absorbed the force behind it. I'm assuming Shaw's energy-absorbing powers turned off or were weakened because Xavier had him in a mental camel-clutch?

He did it slowly because that way Shaw wouldn't be able to absorb ot or...something like that

Originally posted by KingD19
Like I said before, the only problem with that is that Magneto is gonna be on the ship with Shaw. He can't fully manipulate anything that big while he's levitating himself as well.

Originally posted by chomperx9
if he can levitate while moving the brooklyn bridge, im pretty sure he can levitate while crushing a ship.

He wasn't levitating while moving the bridge, and it was the Golden Gate bridge, not the Brooklyn Bridge.

He stood on it, picked it up, and swung it around. Never at any time was he in the air while moving it.

Unless I'm sorely mistaken, the Golden Gate Bridge outweighs and outmasses a submarine exponentially. The Bridge clearly required a level of effort and concentration (in addition to keeping the whole thing in one piece), but I'd say it's absolutely feasible that old!Magneto would crush the unholy shit out of Shaw while levitating.

Originally posted by steverules_2
He did it slowly because that way Shaw wouldn't be able to absorb ot or...something like that

That actually doesn't make any sense, but it wouldn't surprise me if that's what the writers intended.

I took it as Xaviar mind-****ing Shaw weakened Shaw somehow(makes no sense either) and the slow moving coin was Magneto enjoying every moment of his revenge.

Originally posted by RagingBoner
Unless I'm sorely mistaken, the Golden Gate Bridge outweighs and outmasses a submarine exponentially. The Bridge clearly required a level of effort and concentration (in addition to keeping the whole thing in one piece), but I'd say it's absolutely feasible that old!Magneto would crush the unholy shit out of Shaw while levitating.

It was a section of the GG bridge, not the whole bridge, iirc. But yes, that section appeared to be many times greater than that small submarine.

Old gay Magneto was also able to slightly flex adamantium.

Robtard
I took it as Xaviar mind-****ing Shaw weakened Shaw somehow(makes no sense either)

Possibly, but (1.) turning off a mutant's abilities through telepathy seems to be unprecedented in the X-Men films and (2.) it stands to reason that there are limits to Shaw's manipulation and absorption of energy: Consider that he fled the destruction of his yacht by Magneto, even though there was plenty of kinetic energy to use there.

R
It was a section of the GG bridge, not the whole bridge, iirc.

It was pretty much all of the bridge that extended across the bay.

You can see it at the 1:51 mark here

RBut yes, that section appeared to be many times greater than that small submarine.

Old gay Magneto was also able to slightly flex adamantium. [/B]

👆

I'd say Fagneto wins, then.

Originally posted by RagingBoner
Possibly, but (1.) turning off a mutant's abilities through telepathy seems to be unprecedented in the X-Men films and (2.) it stands to reason that there are limits to Shaw's manipulation and absorption of energy: Consider that he fled the destruction of his yacht by Magneto, even though there was plenty of kinetic energy to use there.

The writers seem to like to shit on previously held canon. See the pile of shit that is Wolverine😮rigins as an example.

Possibly he didn't want to risk drowning,as absorbing energy isn't going to help him survive a sinking ship. There was also the fact that the coast guard was closing it, he didn't want to risk capture.

R
Possibly he didn't want to risk drowning,as absorbing energy isn't going to help him survive a sinking ship. There was also the fact that the coast guard was closing it, he didn't want to risk capture.

Ehh, maybe.

I guess I'm just not convinced that the Coast Guard was really a threat; didn't Emma manhandle their initial wave of dinghies seconds before?

Perhaps the issue of drowning is there... perhaps... I must ponder this moar.

Spoiler:
Manhandle. Dinghy. Get it? get it?

😐

Originally posted by RagingBoner
It was pretty much all of the bridge that extended across the bay.

You can see it at the 1:51 mark here .

It's been a while since I've seen the film, so I stand corrected, it does seem to be the whole bridge or there about. So that's 887k tons this homosexual man can lift and move.

Considering that, he could likely levitate himself on a piece of ship decking while turning the yachet into a large compact metal ball.

I don't get it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't get it.

Which part?

The Manhandle + Dinghy joke. Its dumb, just like Gideon is.

N
The Manhandle + Dinghy joke. Its dumb, just like Gideon is.

only if gideon is da joker'z reel name stoned

Nah. He's just some moron who used to troll this forum alot. Sucked Sidious' 'dinghy' nigh constantly too.

I gathered it like this. Shaw can only absorb stuff if he's sanely aware and by his will. Meaning when the grenade went off he had to willingly absorb it. However if he's sleeping and his room explodes he'd probably die since he wasn't prepared for it. Make sense?

Another interesting fact that is probably off-topic. By Xavier making the connection between his mind and Shaws, he feel every bit the pain of the coin going through Shaw, therefore altering his relationship with Erik forever. This is why he's screaming so dramatically during the scene.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
I gathered it like this. Shaw can only absorb stuff if he's sanely aware and by his will. Meaning when the grenade went off he had to willingly absorb it. However if he's sleeping and his room explodes he'd probably die since he wasn't prepared for it. Make sense?

Another interesting fact that is probably off-topic. By Xavier making the connection between his mind and Shaws, he feel every bit the pain of the coin going through Shaw, therefore altering his relationship with Erik forever. This is why he's screaming so dramatically during the scene.

I like the way you think. 👆

I also believe that by making Shaw unaware of what he must absorb he simply receives it like a normal person.

He was simply "playing" Erik in that submarine scene.

Erik could have-

1. Taken off the helmet instantly.
2. Created an escape route through the sub. Like how he ripped that subs wall onto Riptide.
3. Use a chunk of the subs metal underneath Shaw to raise him into the roof. Sure he'll survive but he's further away.

Shaw used history and manipulation to force Erik to make stupid and irratic/angry decisions so he did what he did. Mags tore the beams out of that sub into Shaw with ease.

Shaw can be defeated. Especially at the locale of the film. Mags could have thrown him out into the ocean with lots of metal sheets lifting him. Not harming him at all. Even better lifting the sub and dumping it in the ocean. If Shaw jumps out good for him.

Magneto would murder Shaw. Hit him with a plane, and throw everything in space.

^ He actually did murder him