Originally posted by Robtard
Bits of stupid writing aside, it was clear that Magneto was no match for Shaw at that power-level he achieved.
I reckon there was something the writers intended that the director forgot to put in.
That part of Shaw's powerset is that he can only absorb what he perceives.
If you surprise him the damage will take effect.
It's the only way I see that scene making sense. As well as the coin scene.
He was clouded by Xavier so his body didn't automatically crush the coin.
Originally posted by Robtard
Bits of stupid writing aside, it was clear that Magneto was no match for Shaw at that power-level he achieved.
Yes, when you watch Shaw push back the I-beam against Magneto, he only has to put his fingertips on it and barely push on it. He was way more powerful and after absorbing a nuclear reactor would be more powerful than old magneto (although mags could still do things like drown him probably).
Concerning his lack of radiation safety for others: I believe it was inplied in the movie that radiation causes mutation and helped create mutants and so that was part of why he wanted to use nuclear war (in addition to killing lots of normal people who would oppose mutants). I would assume that mutants were somewhat immune to radiation or something as implied by the film.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Powered up Shaw from a nuclear reactor,... then not any Magneto from any movie stands a chance (X1-X3). Shaw kills him easily.
Wrong/
I killed this Shaw two threads ago with an older Mags.
If anybody cares to read (nobody) they would realise that.
Use your brains peeps. Under the original OP's setup. Mags wins this.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Wrong/I killed this Shaw two threads ago with an older Mags.
If anybody cares to read (nobody) they would realise that.
Use your brains peeps. Under the original OP's setup. Mags wins this.
He doesn't stand a chance. Anything Magneto does to him, nuclear powered Shaw destroys him. He can throws a bridge (he will go through a bridge), sink him (he will easily save himself)... Shaw murders him.
You give one scenario where Magneto ''wins'',... Shaw is simply more powerful and destroy a bridge and whole San Francisko and some more.
Fanatism can blind you.
Originally posted by Xplosive
He doesn't stand a chance. Anything Magneto does to him, nuclear powered Shaw destroys him. He can throws a bridge (he will go through a bridge), sink him (he will easily save himself)... Shaw murders him.You give one scenario where Magneto ''wins'',... Shaw is simply more powerful and destroy a bridge and whole San Francisko and some more.
Fanatism can blind you.
He didn't achieve the levels you mention.
The OP means Shaw holding the rods. And the battle that eventuated.
You suck at this. Please read the last 3 pgs before you attempt this.
Mags drowns Shaw in a metal sphere into the sea. Which he reforms upon will if Shaw compromises it.
Did you not see X2? did you not see X3?
Go for it.
Originally posted by Xplosive
I am talking about nuclear powered Shaw and non of the movie version Magneto stands a chance. It's clearly established a power wise that movie Shaw is more powerful mutant than movie Magneto.
No he isn't..............
Nuclear Shaw gets pushed into the ocean whilst Mags rises into the air.
Shaw could only hold his ground as long as he had physical ground beneath him.
1. He never walked on water.
2. He never walked on air.
If modern day Mags continuously pushes metal around his body Shaw drowns in the water whilst he rises into the air.
Shaw only showed resistance to influence that he was conscious of.
How long under water do you perceive Shaw being capable of being able to make such choices?
Magneto bounced metal balls around a military installation with little effort.
He separated a gun into it's components.
He forced many guns against its soldiers and cameras upon himself.
Amongst other feats.
Shaw drowns with relentless manipulations. He can't stand on water. And will suffocate.
A submarine will make it all the more easier.
Originally posted by the ninjak
No he isn't..............Nuclear Shaw gets pushed into the ocean whilst Mags rises into the air.
Shaw could only hold his ground as long as he had physical ground beneath him.1. He never walked on water.
2. He never walked on air.If modern day Mags continuously pushes metal around his body Shaw drowns in the water whilst he rises into the air.
Shaw only showed resistance to influence that he was conscious of.
How long under water do you perceive Shaw being capable of being able to make such choices?Magneto bounced metal balls around a military installation with little effort.
He separated a gun into it's components.
He forced many guns against its soldiers and cameras upon himself.
Amongst other feats.Shaw drowns with relentless manipulations. He can't stand on water. And will suffocate.
A submarine will make it all the more easier.
It's literally just your fanboyism and thus blindness and trying to explain yourself all options so that you can make yourself feel better.
Shaw simply murders him. Tears his head off or do with him whatever he wants to do. And it's clear that movie Shaw is more powerful mutant. Rogue easily weakend Magneto. Do you think Rogue could take or absorb nucleared powered Shaw (not even comic Rogue, not even close). Shaw power level exceeds Magneto by far.
Originally posted by Xplosive
It's literally just your fanboyism and thus blindness and trying to explain yourself all options so that you can make yourself feel better.Shaw simply murders him. Tears his head off or do with him whatever he wants to do. And it's clear that movie Shaw is more powerful mutant. Rogue easily weakedn him. Do you think Rogue could take or absorb nucleared powered Shaw (not even comic Rogue, not even close). Shaw power level exceeds Magneto by far.
Shaw can't breath under water, plus can't keep up with Modern Magneto's abilities.
Game over. You're high. Read the OP/
Originally posted by the ninjak
Shaw can't breath under water, plus can't keep up with Modern Magnetos abilities.Game over.
Do you think Rogue could take or absorb nucleared powered Shaw (not even comic Rogue, not even close)?
This is what answer how much greater power level Shaw has and how much more powerful he is than movie Magneto. His power level exceeds Magneto by far.
THE END
Originally posted by Xplosive
Do you think Rogue could take or absorb nucleared powered Shaw (not even comic Rogue, not even close)?This is what answer how much greater power level Shaw has and how much more powerful he is than movie Magneto. His power level exceeds Magneto by far.
THE END
We are talking movie feats here Xplosive.
Shaw is on a boat. Old School Mags is looking to take him down.
Mags rises into the air and wraps Shaw in metal. And pushes such metal into the water.
Shaw pushes any physical restraints away with ease but can't rise due to no grounding.
Water pours in around him and he suffocates.
If he gains ground the ground beneath him falls quickly and he dips into the water.
Endless metal flies into his frame stopping him from gaining ground its game over.
Rogue never had anything to do with this.
Originally posted by the ninjak
We are talking movie feats here Xplosive.Shaw is on a boat. Old School Mags is looking to take him down.
Mags rises into the air and wraps Shaw in metal. And pushes such metal into the water.
Shaw pushes any physical restraints away with ease but can't rise due to no grounding.
Water pours in around him and he suffocates.
If he gains ground the ground beneath him falls quickly and he dips into the water.
Endless metal flies into his frame stopping him from gaining ground its game over.Rogue never had anything to do with this.
Ok, cool I agree that in such scenario Magneto could take him down.