Magneto vs Power Girl

amazing people on hear think PG can take on magneto but the same people think black adam cant take mag's himself.

incredible.

So, Magneto's a man.........and Power Girl still has her cleavage window on her costume.

1 point Power girl.

Power Girl has pretty much one-shotted Supes and could handily take out Supergirl.
Colossus made mush of Magneto.

2 points Power girl.

Magneto is old........he may need a nap.

3 points Power girl.

PG FTW.

Originally posted by zeel
amazing people on hear think PG can take on magneto but the same people think black adam cant take mag's himself.

incredible.

People think both those things?

I give Teth the win too.

not sure who thinks he can beat adam and NOT pg..... that's just.... odd.

Originally posted by zeel
amazing people on hear think PG can take on magneto but the same people think black adam cant take mag's himself.

incredible.

Really?

A pissed off Adam would make Magneto piss his pants and probably explode his prostate.

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Originally posted by 753
May have been done already, but I couldnt find it on the search

1. shields up at the get go

2. no shields at the start

With shields up, it depends on whether Mags can maintain them under an assault of super speed punches.

I know he could easily take class 100 brick attacks, even from multiple characters, but he's never taken an all out blitz from a speedster. You'd think that would strain him somewhat..

Magneto.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Magneto.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Really?

A pissed off Adam would make Magneto piss his pants and probably explode his prostate.

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Originally posted by Digglerx
Right, because ever since he gained his powers back he basically had two feats, ending up in a coma for pulling Kitty from space and destroying a bunch of Nimrods.

Unless someone can show a scan of Magneto blocking something greater then a nuke, then he's going to die horribly here.

And the Proteus feat, but who cares about that, eh?

Originally posted by cdtm
With shields up, it depends on whether Mags can maintain them under an assault of super speed punches.

I know he could easily take class 100 brick attacks, even from multiple characters, but he's never taken an all out blitz from a speedster. You'd think that would strain him somewhat..

How fast and how strong, you may ask?

Who cares. Not important.

It never is when the "speedblitz" argument is presented.

This is probably a split 5/10.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
There's probably as little evidence that Magneto could withstand one that fast and strong as there is that Power Girl would use one that fast and strong.

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What do you mean? Are you saying Power Girl herself lacks the feats, or that there's some weakness in claiming any super speedster brick can blitz?

Asking for specific feats is a legitimate argument, but logically any brick speedster should have the same capabilities as pure speedsters, and we've seen the Flashes and Quicksilvers have no problem landing full force punches at their speed levels..

^ I'm saying that your apaprent disbelief that Magneto could withstand a Power Girl speedblitz is curiously (yet unsurprisingly) disconnected from what a Power Girl speedblitz would entail in the first place.

I might as well bemoan how unlikely it is that Power Girl could withstand a blitz of energy blasts by Magneto. What exactly do I mean by a "blitz of energy blasts"?

What? You doubt that Magneto could attack Power Girl with a blitz of powerful energy blasts?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I'm saying that your apaprent disbelief that Magneto could withstand a Power Girl speedblitz is curiously (yet unsurprisingly) disconnected from what a Power Girl speedblitz would entail in the first place.

I might as well bemoan how unlikely it is that Power Girl could withstand a blitz of energy blasts by Magneto.

Not following your logic.

A speedblitz generally entails attacking an opponent at some fraction of super speed.

If Mags has a history of taking out characters in PG's class or above with a "blitz" of energy attacks, that's a perfectly valid argument, but also an apples to oranges comparison to a speedblitz.

So yeah, don't see your point, or how one invalidates the other.

Originally posted by cdtm
Not following your logic.

A speedblitz generally entails attacking an opponent at some fraction of super speed.

If Mags has a history of taking out characters in PG's class or above with a "blitz" of energy attacks, that's a perfectly valid argument, but also an apples to oranges comparison to a speedblitz.

So yeah, don't see your point.

That you don't need to prove that Power Girl has a history of taking out characters in Magneto's class with a speedblitz -- because somehow... when it comes to speedblitzing, no proof or substantiation is required like it is with other attack methods -- is what I'm poking at.

Call it apples and oranges. I'm calling it presumptuous at best, hypocritical at worst.

Did I say PG would break the shields unequivocally? I'm questioning whether Mags would have more difficulty maintaining his shields under a speed blitz, yes, but that's simple logic.. One class 100 punch in a second vs 1,000 punches in a second should be much more difficult to withstand, unless Mags shields somehow negate kinetic energy.

This match comes down to this:

1. Can Mags take out Power Girl?

2. Can Power Girl breach Magneto's shields?

If 1 and 2 are negative, it becomes a contest of Magneto turtling, and Power Girl pounding on his shield. Basically, a contest of endurance.

I don't think it's hypocritical at all, to assume it's a strain on Mags to maintain his shield against normal class 100 attacks, much less a class 100 brick throwing attacks at super speed.]

Take the "speed blitz" out of the equation, and it still comes down to who drops first.

Has Mags ever tried making a shield in someones body, like Sue Richards does?

Seems like this is something he should be capable of, given that he manipulates EM energy, and people possess EM fields..

Originally posted by cdtm
Did I say PG would break the shields unequivocally? I'm questioning whether Mags would have more difficulty maintaining his shields under a speed blitz, yes, but that's simple logic.. One class 100 punch in a second vs 1,000 punches in a second should be much more difficult to withstand, unless Mags shields somehow negate kinetic energy.

Or you figured out that vague and loaded terminology, i.e., "all out speedblitz," does little to advance a discussion and quantifying what you're actually talking about helps. That it took this long to get just this far, when you were trying to force a discussion two, three steps down the road serves again to illustrate my problem.

Taking for granted that we are where we are currently, I still see disconnect in your casual presumption that Power Girl would throw 1,000 punches in a second. You've quantified your claim, when did you substantiate your claim?

Magneto throws 100 potent mid-herald blasts at Power Girl. Prove she can tank that. If she can, she wins. If she can't, it's simple. She loses. BTW, i isn't hypocritical at all, to assume it's something of a strain on Power Girl to withstand a single potent blast from a mid-herald, much less 100 of them from a mid-herald character like Magneto and his proven power.

Also btw, since I never claimed unequivocally that Power Girl would get taken down by this, don't ask me how I came up with that quantification.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What you call simple logic is what I call a gap in logic. And I hope you noticed that you've just moved the goalposts by replacing "all out speeblitz" with "1000 punches in a second."

Huh? That was by way of example, not a statement of how many punches PG could throw.

The number is beside the point. The point, is that defending under class 100 level punches at super speed should be more of a strain on Magneto then defending against a single class 100 level punch.

Also, if he's defending against an assault of punches, how much of Mags focus can he spare for this "blitz of energy" you mention?

And, who has he taken out with such a blitz? Thor? Gladiator? Hulk?