No one bunks in my bachelor pad. Except bachelors. So you qualify.
It's two rooms, including kitchen. Communal bathroom. Rent is CA$900/month. It's also on a college campus. I look forward to seeing you. But I'll never be there. I'll be down at your mom's place. 😉
But I won't be doing her. I'll be pimping her out to Gideon. And using the profits to seduce those drunken college girls. Nothing gets drunk college girls wetter than a dip in a pool of money. Some sweet green.
Originally posted by Borbarad
Urm. I really have to ask, if you did even read the "Death Star" novel,
Yes, I did, several times in fact.
[quote[because it clearly states, that the superlaser beams consists of exotic matter, [/quote]
No it doesn't. It states that the hypermatter reactor uses some sort of tachyonic whatever, not the actual superlaser. Did you actually read the novel?
converting energy from the hypermatter reactor (aka energy from hyperspace) into beams that were highly destructive in real space. Which means, that they have precisely nothing to do with common turbolaser technology.
That's exactly what turbolasers do. Do you think that turbolasers aren't powered by hypermatter? Do you think that the giant, small star hypermatter reactors in ISD's are just there for show?
And it's great that you list the design of the hypermatter reactor as main problem, and then take the second Death Star (obviously the reactor design was present after constructing the first) as example that they could do it faster. And in fact, building the superweapon was the main problem. This is why they had a team of the most brilliant minds in the Galaxy working on this problem at the Maw Installation (see "Jedi Academy trilogy"😉, even building a prototype Death Star in the process. I doubt that they did that, because they already were capable of building the station.
No, clearly you did not read the novel well enough. It is specifically stated that the biggest challenge was not building the superlaser (which Mon Montha and the ICS2 both confirm existed decades prior) but building a reactor to power it.
That aside: Given that they even used civilian transports to get the material to Endor (see "Shadows of the Empire"), I doubt that less beaurocracy was involved in the construction of the second Death Star compared to the first, especially since we see the outer frame construction taking place at the end of "Revenge of the Sith" already. Not even pointing out that we're dealing with an Empire here and not with your regular technocratic government.
And there is no evidence that the CIS had a beaucratic government in wartime.
Obviously, you don't get the point.
You can make plans about anything without being able to realize them, even things that could potentially be used against you. Hitler obviously made plans about conquering Russia, without being able to do the job. And as you mention "propaganda" already: Why would anybody believe the Republic officials, if said plans would ever have been stolen and published? There would have been no hard evidence to link them to the CIS anyway.
Only an idiot would plan to make something in wartime when they lack the resources to build it within any forseeable future.
And you're still ignorant to the facts: Immediately after the war, Sidious was in control of both Republic and CIS resources. Why didn't he built a Death Star in the matter of months, if - as you think - the CIS alone would have been capable of doing so?
Poogle the Lesser already had plans to build it well before Sidious got seriously involved.
To be prepared when they have the ability to built the thing or to work towards gaining said ability. Holy shit. Did you never make a plan featuring something you weren't capable of before you made the plan? So you never planned to learn anything?
Casually, sure. I don't run my life with military efficiency.
Old news? Last time I checked the history of SW weapon tech, the first superlasers appeared in 29 BBY, just eight years, before the first plans for the Death Star were made. And, as I said above, it was a brand new technology. So you suppose they can gain complete control over this in that rather short amount of time? Appears to be a little bit odd to me. Especially, given the fact that even improved hypermatter reactors were prone to (lethal) malfunctions, despite the fact, that this technique was around much longer.
Well your history is wrong. Superlasers have existed for a long time; the ICS2 mentions superlasers being used for mining.
So, obviously, their problem was that new technology, which is why they had those aforementioned scientists working on the issue and had them build a prototype to test the - newly developed - weapon / reactor.
What new technology? Hypermatter is nothing new, superlasers are nothing new, what's new?
What bureaucracy? We're talking about a freaking Empire, a form of government coined by the idea that one person gives orders, which are carried out. If Sidious said "built me a Death Star", then people would have done so. Apparently, they simple weren't capable of carrying out his commands that fast, because they lacked the knowledge to do so. There is - sorry to say that - no other explanation that makes sense in context of the rule of the Emperor, especially not "bureaucracy".
Sure. Because obviously Sidious can run quadrillions of people all by himself. 🙄
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
That's why it beat the three million Clonetrooper---wait a minute...
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Right? Except 100 to 1 argument made by Dooku, points to a lot more clones. Even with the 100 quadrillion figure we still have got a quadrillion clones.
Irrelevant as Palpatine would not let the republic fall even if there were a hundred clone troops and 100 quintillion battle droids.
Originally posted by Mizukage YodaAnd in the T-canon Clone Wars, Dooku spoke of how important the ordering of several million more battle droids was for the war effort. In an army of quadrillions, several million is nothing, but it was important still? Frankly, I'm a little skeptical toward Dooku and his inconsistencies.
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Right? Except 100 to 1 argument made by Dooku, points to a lot more clones. Even with the 100 quadrillion figure we still have got a quadrillion clones.
Irrelevant as Palpatine would not let the republic fall even if there were a hundred clone troops and 100 quintillion battle droids.
Something everyone seems to have forgotten; lets start from the beginning. It is the height of the Imperial Empire, spanning almost the entire galaxy. The Emperor senses a disturbance in the Force, something has ripped a wormhole through Space time, and he immediately dispatches Vader, and a small task group (maybe four Destroyers and a lot of support ships and scientific vessels). Vader would get there and would set the task about of making it stable after sending probe droids and have them use astronavigation to calculate exactly where and when they are, which can be determined by star, and quazar, positions. The probes also detect a small group of Galactic Alliance ships on the otherside. Imperial officers see this and believe that it is the Empire simply more technolgically advanced. Vader sends his findings to Sideous and that he believes that the group on the otherside are not the Empire. The Emperor dispatches more ships to the wormhole, by now stable, and soon a hefty invasion fleet is ready. The Empire sends in the fiorst wave arriving on the other side of the wormhole; much to the suprise of the GA Scout fleet. A Jedi (maybe Kyp Durran) is there too, senses Vaders presence, and is somewhat shocked. The GA commander is unsure of how to comitt his forces, as the Star Destroyers come well within weapons range. They transmit who they are, and the Empire says surrender your vessels blah blah... A battle ensues the Imps fully upon them... the Jedi would either be captured or escape. And the Imps would have access to what ever technology is left on the ships.
So yeah at first the Empire would would win by the number of comitted forces, they would then establish a beachhead, take over a few nearby populated worlds. And the technological difference wouldn't last long as the Empire gain some of it. They would learn what happened to their two Death Stars and would revise their plans. Probably crushing the Rebels at Yavin. Think of how much would change.
And the Imps would have access to what ever technology is left on the ships.
It's not that easy. Having an example of the results of higher tech can give you some indicators of how to improve, but it doesn't give you the ability to just make the result. There's a lot of know-how that one can't deduce just from the end result.
Also, initial encounters are likely to go to the GA for the reasons of said tech. They will, after all, have reason to have prepared a big fleet too. Even if the Imperials end up bringing a sufficiently big enough one to win despite disadvantages, retreat should be quite possible. Intact captures in a meeting encounter isn't so easy or likely.
Originally posted by Q99No, not technically. It would be more accurate to say they let the Empire beat itself and they survived and they survived and came out on top. For some reason, many people think that the Rebellion's victory at Endor constitutes "defeat of the entire Empire", something even Robot Chicken referenced once. Thrawn would've kicked their ass had he not been backstabbed, RE: Palpatine would have kicked their ass had he not been backstabbed, and the entire Imperial Remnant would have kicked their ass had they not descended in to fractious warlordism.
Why would the GA be so in awe? They've beaten the Empire.
But you're right in that the GA would have a slight technological gap on their side, and several decades of knowledge and information on the Empire. The "awe" the GA would experience wouldn't be the Empire itself, it would be the the fact that they've been time travelling. And with no discernible paradoxical consequences to boot. And if we're to play to "realism" here, the Empire invading the LotF era galaxy would be a disastrous expedition for them. No relevant information, now-foreign territory, a bottle-necked supply route---the logistics would be a nightmare. Not to mention if the Empire sent its entire armada in to the wormhole, that would leave their own time's galaxy completely undefended and exposed to rebellion and chaos.
A "realistic", cross-time invasion is silly and kinda sucks to talk about. Much better to discuss a hypothetical involving simple statistics and competence.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
No, not technically. It would be more accurate to say they let the Empire beat itself and they survived and they survived and came out on top.
I think it important to note that they still have the formula with which to trigger the Empire beating itself. Take out the head and it's not entirely stable, they aren't a republic where Triumvirate members can be replaced without shaking the power structure.
And in those previous examples, they were in a much more fragile position materials-wise.
Originally posted by Q99
[quote=Lord Lucien]No, not technically. It would be more accurate to say they let the Empire beat itself and they survived and they survived and came out on top.
I think it important to note that they still have the formula with which to trigger the Empire beating itself. Take out the head and it's not entirely stable, they aren't a republic where Triumvirate members can be replaced without shaking the power structure.
And in those previous examples, they were in a much more fragile position materials-wise. [/QUOTE] I doubt the Emperor, upon realizing that he is dead and gone as a result of betrayal---twice, is going to up and pull another "Endor" and lure the entire GA fleet to---yeah, that even sounds stupid.