😂
you guys should take your act on the road.
anyway, i DO think planet likely meant 'earth-ish' as that is the prototypical 'planet', or smaller. don't really know that a terrestrial planet can attain anything even close to jupiter. thought there was something about the creation process that made planets that large gaseous. may be wrong--been a while since my astronomy days. it is certainly ambiguous, and as such open entriely to opinion--ie, there is no definitive correct answer. i think everyone agrees it is a pretty impressive feat though.
as for the 'match-up'? difficult to call imo. i always believed they were peers, so i'm not surprised no one seems to have really outdone the other. could thor have smashed that planet in the same number of shots using his fists? not sure. maybe. could glads have pulled the serpent free? maybe. does the ship=asgard? probably imo--could be MORE impressive consider he flew it under his own power (i believe) so fast that thor lost sight of him. thor's reaction is telling as well--his power beggared description. very high praise from thor.
in all, there weren't as many uber strength feats from thor as i'd thought i might see. some could combo stuff, some good hammer stuff, but pure strength feats? the top ones are close enough though that i can't see anyway someone could say glads is CLEARLY stronger. nor to be fair can i say thor is CLEARLY stronger. not enough to make a difference in a battle, that's for sure.
entertaining as this was, i really can't believe carver never even made an APPEAREANCE in this thread. this was glads' time to shine! a chance to show all the masses what he's really made of! alas, i guess we're stuck with what we all already knew. pitiful really, after all that talk.....
c'est la vie. 🙂
As far as I can tell, Gladiator's best feats are:
a)
Gladiator lifting a Skyscraper.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29279/624538-solarsystem051ws_super.jpg
Moving a ship the size of a complex at fast speeds.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29279/624543-solarsystem051ws_super.jpg
Destroying a planet -of unknown size but most likely bigger than the moon- in a few blows.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29279/624540-solarsystem051ws_super.jpg
Thor's best feats -without any usage of Mjolnir- are:
a)
Thor overpowers and once more lifts the entire Midgard Serpent.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/MidgardSerpent2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/MidgardSerpent3.jpg
Note: The Midgard Serpent was so large, it encircled the Earth itself multiple times, and was literally crushing it in its coils causing countless disasters across the entire world such as Typhoons, Earthquakes, Mudslides, Floods etc.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/MidgardSerpent.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/MidgardSerpent1.jpgThe power generated by Thor and Hercules’ punches colliding closes a hole/rip that traverses dimensions. It is stated that the two can wreck/destroy worlds. .
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AplanetBuster3.jpgThor easily shatters a Cosmic Barrier created by a significantly amped Silver Surfer to keep him away from Mjolnir. Silver Surfer admits that Thor has more strength than he could ever know.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight5.jpgThe force of Thor and the Hero -a significantly amped version of Gilgamesh the Forgotten one-striking each other shakes the entire Celestial Mothership which was the size of our moon.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHero8.jpg
Thor resists the gravimetric pull akin to that of a Neutron Star and breaks free.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WithstandsNeutronStar1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WithstandsNeutronStar2.jpg
Overpowering the World Engine which was powered by the Cosmic Axis of the Nine Worlds, the World Tree.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine4.jpg
Note: What makes this feat so impressive is that besides it’s own power, the engine was powered by the World Tree Yggdrasil. Yggrdasil is the Axis Mundi or Cosmic Axis; it exists in all planes of reality, connects all the worlds and it holds the cosmos together.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor73.jpg
Tampering and unleashing its power literally warps all of reality, and if not careful it can destroy all of creation.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree3.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree4.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree5.jpg
Tried to not include scenes that people may b*tch about as hyperbole. I don't know, I'm biased, but I honestly find Thor's collection to be more noticeably more impressive than Gladiator's. The only category he doesn't have too many impressive feats in is striking power in regards to scale, but that's simply comes with the territory of carrying a hammer.
Not including performances or showings related to other opponents like Hulk, Kurse, Drax, Surfer and so on doesn't help the situation. I find owning Drax, stalemating Hulk for hours and so on to be noticeably more impressive than something like destroying a planet.
Unfortunately, the fall back argument of Gladiator having not as many appearances quickly came up and not wanting to derail the discussion any further, I stopped pushing them. I personally call it bullshit as Gladiator has battled high end opponents many times. If he was stronger than Thor, it would have been made evident.
For the record, I consider them -and other high end strong men- to be peers more or less. But when push comes to shove, Thor can step it up to a level that I'd rank above Gladiator.
Originally posted by leonidas
thor's reaction is telling as well--his power beggared description. very high praise from thor.
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Sorry, had to.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/HulkThorEqual.jpg
I raise you.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusAnd
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Sorry, had to.
I know you are messing around Rage but in all honesty; In the first scan, Gladiator was exhausted and he mentions this before he threw down with Thor. Being forced to fight at hyper speed (because Thor and crew were wearing special devices) didn't help matters either. I'm actually surprised Gladiator did as well as he did.
Originally posted by zopzop
I know you are messing around Rage but in all honesty; In the first scan, Gladiator was exhausted and he mentions this before he threw down with Thor. Being forced to fight at hyper speed (because Thor and crew were wearing special devices) didn't help matters either. I'm actually surprised Gladiator did as well as he did.
Gladiator wasn't at 100% but the battle was a fairly short one. Lasted only a page. Still, the point was that Gladiator acknowledged Thor's power and that he's strength equaled his own. Five gets you ten Walt will point out that he intended Thor to be seen -at least- on par with Gladiator strength wise.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, either Thor was moving at hyper speed or Gladiator was inside the nullifying effect of the time sled. People can't have it both ways.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Gladiator wasn't at 100% but the battle was a fairly short one. Lasted only a page. Still, the point was that Gladiator acknowledged Thor's power and that he's strength equaled his own. Five gets you ten, Walt will point out that he intended Thor to be seen -at least- on par with Gladiator strength wise.I've said it before and I'll say it again, either Thor was moving at hyper speed or Gladiator was inside the nullifying effect of the time sled. People can't have it both ways.
Wait didn't Gladiator see them from space moving at hyper speed and matched them? He even stated it.
Originally posted by zopzop
Wait didn't Gladiator see them from space moving at hyper speed and matched them? He even stated it.
He did. Which is why the scene doesn't make much sense to me. Either Walter completely forgot about drawing Thor with the device on or it's the most likely scenario, we're just over analyzing sh*t. He wanted the two to come off as peers in regards to physical might and he did just that. The rest are just details. Walter didn't care much about them, the story came first.
Originally posted by Supermutant
Single Punch from Glads knocks Thing completely through 8 cars, and Ben thinks he has never been hit that hard.
So you have using performances against other characters? 😄
Iight then. I'll raise you.
Originally posted by Supermutant
Not the time but the force this a [B]strenght contest. lol
From scan "Planet pulverizing force" just from grappling a minute. [/B]
Oh, okay. Stalemating the Hulk as long as he did is still easily more impressive. Who cares if it was planet pulverizing force?
Since you care so much about this stuff, Thor also stalemated Drax for an extended period while he was tapping into the Power Gem. Later on, he owned that version of Drax. A weaker version destroyed a planet locking up with Thanos and ripped apart a Star. It should also be noted that the very same weaker version was IIRC stalemated by a character who while noticeably amped was getting beat up by Thor.
I know this scares Gladiator fans silly, but destroying a planet....it's not that special much less some uber feat that makes him stronger than Thor.
Feat from Realm of Kings.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/imperial%20guard/styg10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/imperial%20guard/styg11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/imperial%20guard/styg12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/imperial%20guard/styg13.jpg
