I'm sure Gladiator would be capable of knocking Thor down with a surprise bullrush plus a haymaker even if he was only half as strong. My stance has never been that Thor is far above Gladiator physically or anything silly like that. I do however believe Thor is -at least- on par with Kallark, and if push comes to shove I'd give him the edge.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
When someone lacks the proper arguments and finds no way to win, he retreats to insults. It's not very mature and the point where I have to say, goodbye. I don't like people who are bold and insulting over the internet because they feel secure. In RL those people would be polite and the discussion civilized. The internet destryos all good manners and makes people bold 😂
If it's so important for you, you win, I don't care. It's about comics and fun.
Yea, that's definitely it. I find your arguments terribly difficult to reply to., so I insult It’s not because I think you're a legitimate idiot and/or a troll with some time to spare.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
He shouldn't because he lacked the strength to keep up the pressure? Or because he was feeling like doing it? Yeah 🙄
Glads was every bit superior.
He simply loosened his grip. Masterson is not a warrior. How many times do I have to tell you this? I could even ask the writer if I were pressed but this is such a clear cut scene, I would be embarrassed to even bring it up.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Obviously, weaker and worse at h2h then thor and glads 👆.Heed your own advice and don't twist them to suit your needs, it's not honest. You surely read more literature then me, the way you act you surely do!!! sarcasm
For the last time, I didn’t twist anything. If I thought Gladiator proved to be the stronger of the two, I would have posted the entire scene. He however failed to do so. It was a stalemate. The comic outright said that whatever possibility of a winner emerging was lost.
It was extremely straight forward.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
It was Bullsh!t. Now you are honest. I'm proud of you. Really. clappin
Yes it was bullshit as Masterson clearly didn't possess only a tenth of Thor's strength. However, that scene made it pretty damn clear that Masterson was no equal to Thor physically. Which was the entire point. His entire tenure highlighted the difference between the two.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Maybe because Thor is the better fighter and more experienced at using his abilities/Mjolnir? No?
That scene was clearly about power. He just outright beat the shit out of him as he had the edge. A weaker Loki was utterly destroying Masterson.
The gap is evident. Masterson himself pointed out that Thor had the edge and after returning, the Odinson was even embarrassed by Masterson’s performance.
Whatever, it’s a waste of time, you don’t read Thor.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
So? Your point? Masterson lost, to Loki, to Thor and to Glads.
My point is pretty clear. Masterson was on par with Gladiator strength wise yet was inferior to Thor.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
You won't tolerate it omg_smilie!!??!! Then don't make up some Bullsh!t. You already admitted you did, so don't throw with things you cant stand being thrown back in your face.
It was dishonest or cheap.
I didn’t make up anything. I posted a scan:
Masterson was clearly not that much weaker than Thor, but he was weaker. You would have an argument if I was attempting to claim the disparity was that big. I wasn’t, and so in conclusion, you’re a f*cking moron.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Stalemate him? No not really. He was able to hold his own for a few seconds nothing more. Nice try though.
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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
He couldn't and he didn't else he would. He wasn't able to accomplish it, he didn't accomplish it, he needed help. Fact. Accept it. Masterson isn't Thor. What Thor can do and what Masterson mastered to do are two different things.
Masterson had the power. He simply couldn’t access it. It wasn’t a physical limit, it was a mental one. That’s an important distinction. Christ, he would have killed Gladiator simply by pounding on him, with the energy projection Mjolnir is capable off, Gladiator’s best bet would be to keep his head down if Masterson cut loose.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Yes he doesn't know, that's why he couldn't accomplish it. I think you are your worst enemy. 😂
😬 As long as you understand that the limit is a mental one, not a physical one, I don’t care.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Your opinion, and a wrong one imho. But a nice try. 😉
If I were to ask the writer and if he agreed with me, will you concede?
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Never said he isn't. Never doubted it too but now after I saw the best scans you showed me of Thor, I really doubt that they are on par. I believe now Glads being a little bit stronger.
Pretty clever. Keep on posting stupid shit like that and I might honestly just stop replying. You’d win by default.
I think you’re just trolling at this point. There isn’t any actual coherency in your posts. Not too long ago, you admitted that Thor had the better lifting feats and Gladiator had the better striking feats. If nothing else, your conclusion should be that they’re on par. It’s wrong, but better than this bullshit.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I have but you simply throw a lot of scans with nothing but hyperbole or the strikes/throws of Mjolnir, which are impressive but don't show how strong THOR is. I want to see his striking power without Mjolnir, Breaking Celestial Armor with his fists for example. You honestly think he can do that?
Anything I post is twisted, ignored or complained about as not fair. What the hell is the point?
For the record, yes, I think Thor could break through Celestial Armor if push comes to shove. I’d wager Thor’s strength provided the large majority of the force the first time around. Hell, if Thor’s strength provided even half the force necessary, it’d be more impressive than destroying a planet.
Chances are, now you’ll argue that Mjolnir provided 90% of the force necessary.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Lifting a Skyscraper with ease, without struggling. He didn't use all his powers, read the comic again. He did it quite easy and at superspeed. And don't lowball the size, it was citysized and had millions tons of weapons on board.
I really don’t understand how you can claim that Gladiator wasn’t struggling at all while earlier claiming that Thor/Bill were struggling with Asgard. It’s comments like that that discourage me from continuing this farce. The double standards and leap in logic are ridiculous.
How about you read the comic again?
Gladiator was using all his might. An city sized Starship moving at that speed while carrying that much explosives wouldn’t destroy just a mountain. It should be noted that Gladiator died in the explosion and the ship was stated to be as large as a complex. I personally have very high doubts that it was as large as an entire city, but that's just me.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Impressive, resisting the gravity of a star isn't the same as pulling or moving the star. aving his weight multiplied, impressive, but the other Asgardians suffered the same and lived to tell the tale...Hyperbole?
The Midgard Serpent was impressive, though the ship was the most impressive about it. Thor hold and lifted it, but the Ship was dragging it along. The World Engine, was big and heavy? Celestial Armor, he surely would have broken it without Mjolnir, right? 🙄 Each feat had a flaw in it. Though as said I like the Serpent-feat.
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Bro, if you need to do this much spinning, just admit defeat, who cares? Like you said, it’s just comics. It’s like watching the PR agent of a Presidential candidate at work. Just so full of it. Especially when in the same breath you went out of your way to airbrush Gladiator’s feats.
No, resisting and overpowering the gravity of a Neutron Star is not similar to moving/pulling one, but do you have any basis for not putting it on par with planet destroying in regards to strength?
The scene was pretty clear, the feat was basically all Thor, otherwise it wouldn’t have been so shocking and impressive. The ship was at best only footing but I doubt the writer used it as anything more than substitute for the ground. In another instance, a weakened Thor lifted a significant portion of a more powerful Midgard Serpent.
The World Engine was Thor overpowering a powerful device, on top of the will and power of the World Tree itself. As shown in the comics, the World Tree is the axis of creation and all. It’s Thor’s greatest feat of raw strength imo and easily surpasses anything Gladiator has done by far. It’s up there with Masterson/Dargo unleashing a Universal level shockwave in terms of impressiveness. At least in my book.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
It is, surprisingly. While Glads did everything with ease you had to put up a lot of scans showing almost nothing to compensate the lesser feats (except the Midgard serpent). It impressed the audience, so it was useful 😉. You have shown us other entities and you have shown him using Mjolnir? Either you jest or you forgot something.
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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Nice try, lol, cheap but nice.
Nice try, cheap? Did you read what I wrote? In your opinion, how was it cheap and how did I come up short?
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
It is, and that's your problem. I give you the win and retreat because you fail to behave mature enough. Maybe next time, when we discuss you will think about the lessons your parents teached you (and I'm pretty sure they did) and we can have a polite discussion 😉.
It’s not my fault that the c*ck slapping I gave you left a bad taste in your mouth. If you dislike being called an idiot, stop being idiotic. Having a different opinion is one thing, going out of your way to be difficult and ignoring logic is another.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
So I giv you the win and Thor proved to be on par with Glads, strengthwise I hope you are happy and calm down now 😄.
I’m sorry but stupidity irritates me so. I can’t help it.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I forgot something. Since you know so much about Thor. Does he always wear the Belt of Strength, that doubles his strength? Did he wear it in those feats you showed us, especially the midgard Serpent? Just curious.
No, he doesn’t. He didn’t wear it during the Midgard Serpent incident. As a matter of fact, the only scene that I posted where he did have it on was when he broke through Exitar’s armor.
Hammering Wonder Man, tossing a bus on Thing? I thing it's a pretty safe conclusion Gladiator is stronger.
On a more serious note, that's actually a pretty good showing for Wonder Man now that I think about it. Getting hammered with blow after blow to the point he gets sent to the center of the planet and returning a few pages later completely fine is an impressive showing. Especially when you take into account that he couldn't fly at the time.
Edit: Thanks to you Supermutant I just realized the Annihilators took on Tempus in #4. In comparison, Thor came out looking pretty damn good.
Hurts Ego the Living Planet by ramming him at near light speed.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Gladiator/Ego3.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Gladiator/Ego5.jpg
Silver Surfer states that they are evenly matched.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Gladiator/Surfer2.jpg
Breaks free from SS hold and smacks him with his own board, sending him crashing into Ego.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Gladiator/Surfer3.jpg
Haha. Those scans are non cannon. Besides, Gladiator being evenly matched with a character whom Thor has proven to have a significant advantage over when push comes to shove doesn't particularly help your argument.
I never read the issue, was Surfer weakened during his battle with Gladiator? The bottom panel of the third last scan suggests that. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised.
I wish I was a Gladiator fan. They don't seem to have to do much when it comes to proving anything.
Destroys a mountain peak about to crush a facility the size of Chicago.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DestroysChicagoRock3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DestroysChicagoRock4.jpgMjolnir throws have shattered mountains and pulverized planetoids.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Mjolnir2.jpgOne shot kills a herald.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/OneShotsAirWalker1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/OneShotsAirWalker2.jpgOwns Drax and Maxam.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/InfinityWatchvsThor1fight9.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/InfinityWatchvsThor1fight10.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/InfinityWatchvsThor1fight11.jpgThor matches and overpowers Pluto in a contest of strength and power.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAresandPluto5.jpgWhile enraged, breaks through Celestial Armor.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsCelestials1.jpg
Note: A page earlier, the punches -said to be able to shatter planets- of a full powered Odin Destroyer Armor were being shrugged off by this Celestial.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsCelestial7.jpgThor knocks out the Silver Surfer himself.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer2fight13.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer2fight14.jpgThor faces Starhawk in a contest of strength that generated enough force to destroy the facility of Korvac’s. Aforementioned facility was made to withstand the greatest of earthquakes.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsStarHawk1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsStarHawk2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsStarHawk3.jpgThor tosses Ugarth so hard, he goes flying out of the Solar System itself.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThrowsoutofSolarSystem.jpgThor overpowers Annihilus himself.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus9.jpg
Now that the the newest addition to the Gladiator's side is using feats against other characters, this has become much easier.
It should have, but you know how some posters are. Stalemating the Hulk in of itself is more impressive than anything Gladiator's done strength wise.
The only reason this thread lasted this long is because Batman-Prime or whatever his name is can't accept any feat that doesn't fit his specific guidelines. I honestly have no idea why I indulged the dude.
The above is far from a one time occurrence as here Masterson Thor stalemates a post resurrection Thanos.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanos19.jpgHere's the fight from a different angle.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanos20.jpgStalemates the 8thday Juggernaut -an extremely amped Juggernaut in this issue at least- in a contest of strength.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsJuggernaut3.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsJuggernaut4.jpgStalemates Kurse in a contest of strength and then tosses him away once enraged.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsKurse23.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsKurse24.jpgThor overpowers Mephisto in his own realm.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsMephisto14.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsMephisto15.jpgEasily tears through a Celestial made canister.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ShatterSmallPlanet2.jpg
Note: In the same issue, Thor struck the canister with enough force to destroy a small planet, and it was not even dented.Easily rips through the protective dome covering the brain of Exitar.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ShattersBrainDome1.jpgAfter withstanding attacks from the Celestials, a weary Thor picks up the enormous Odin Sword and tosses it with such force it penetrates Arishem the Celestial.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsCelestials4.jpgAdam Warlock calls Thor one of the most physically powerful beings in the entire Universe.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsWarlockandSilverSurfer4.jpgThor puts down Hela herself while in her dimension and place of power.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThrowHurtsHela1.jpgThor hurts and topples Surtur and Ymir.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThrowHurtsSurtur1.jpg
Originally posted by Supermutant
I'll tell you right now, comparing durability feats will be an even bigger uphill battle for Gladiator as his side can't hide behind the argument "He's using Mjolnir!!!! 🙁".
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Dayum.what's that from? Did Thor seriously kill Thing in 616? 😖
Yea, he did, but Odin turned back time/warped reality.
