Heh I doubt he can reattach limbs, but he was shown healing machinegun wounds over night, deep cuts etc.
PS: Did you guys see that book where Deadpool learnt to "animate his seperated limbs"? lol
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganThere was a huge scandal involving MJ and Logan saw Pete is POed and basically kept calling his wife stupid. If that's not a provocation, I dont know what is. But point taken, he wasnt prepared for a battle, true. But Spider-man wasnt prepared for Logan going for the stab as well.
I disagree 100%. He never made an agressive jester to spiderman at all. It was a joke by Wolverine own admission. Not to mention during that same arc spiderman was saying numerous things to wolverine, who never attacked him. Why would he think Spiderman would assault him? He clearly dident, which is why he was completely off his guard. Also Logan pulled his claws out numerous times, this idea that he fear to look paranoid, is a huge strech.No really, not in terms of speed it not. It much larger gap between a person cheap shotting an ally and a fight, then a sparring match and a real fight. Also the whole point of sparring is to improve reaction time, speed and put skill into action.
Though there is a difference between sparing match and a fight, it not nearly as large as what happen in the window incident. That should be quite easy to see.
Ok, there's a difference, not arguing that. But tell me, do you believe that one person all of a sudden stabbing another person during training is a good example to make conclusions about speed? Especially when we have examples of them actually fighting?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWWhat scene? You mean the one where Logan stabbed Strange? LOL While admit it was funny, I dont see how it has anything to do with this situation.
No, he doesn't know a thing. Remember Dr Strange and Hellstorm scene?A stab from adamantium blades is actually safer than a swipe when dealing with someone with so erratic moves (that are gonna get Parker killed sooner or later, as Cap said). Even with unintentional swipes Parker can get sliced in pieces. With stabs, Logan can control how deep his claws are gonna penetrate. He hurt Puny Pete too much by an accident, but still he didn't sink his claws all the way in. Now imagine a mistake with a swipe...
"Sorry webs, had no idea you would follow up that move with a backflip kick and I sorta-kinda cut your damn leg off. Stuff happens, now grow up and get me a beer."
😛
Logan didnt want to stab Pete but it wasn't an accident. He simply got carried away. Hence everyone's reaction. (I like saying "hence" makes me seem smart). But that wouldnt matter in a fight. Logan is not "accidently" swiping SM's head off if Pete is actually ready for him. Whch wasnt the case during the sparring. And that backflip will just hit the target.😛
Cap knows jack.😛 He fights using skill and it works for him, but Spider-man fights better when relying solely on his istincts, its when he starts thinking too much is when he usually gets in trouble. I actually think spider sense has a lot undescovered potential. He can basically tune it to anything he wants but for some reason they never developed that ability in comics..
Originally posted by SamZED
Heh I doubt he can reattach limbs, but he was shown healing machinegun wounds over night, deep cuts etc.PS: Did you guys see that book where Deadpool learnt to "animate his seperated limbs"? lol
There was a huge scandal involving MJ and Logan saw Pete is POed and basically kept calling his wife stupid. If that's not a provocation, I dont know what is. But point taken, he wasnt prepared for a battle, true. But Spider-man wasnt prepared for Logan going for the stab as well.
Also it not as if there other fights don't support Wolverine be able to tagg Spiderman.
It more evidence that Wolverine can tank Spidermans blows then it is for any speed feat.
also I just notice I quoted the wrong part of your post lol
Originally posted by SamZED
What scene? You mean the one where Logan stabbed Strange? LOL While admit it was funny, I dont see how it has anything to do with this situation.Logan didnt want to stab Pete but it wasn't an accident. He simply got carried away. Hence everyone's reaction. (I like saying "hence" makes me seem smart). But that wouldnt matter in a fight. Logan is not "accidently" swiping SM's head off if Pete is actually ready for him. Whch wasnt the case during the sparring. And that backflip will just hit the target.😛
Cap knows jack.😛 He fights using skill and it works for him, but Spider-man fights better when relying solely on his istincts, its when he starts thinking too much is when he usually gets in trouble. I actually think spider sense has a lot undescovered potential. He can basically tune it to anything he wants but for some reason they never developed that ability in comics..
Just an example of Pete not knowing shit... to quote Logan, he popped claw only a little.
If he didn't hold back, claws would be sticking outwards Parker's back. I know you like saying "hence" 😛 If backflip hits the target, then Parker breaks his foot. Ha!
Now he doesn't have SS and thus Wolverine dim maks him in the nuts. He'd actually do that instead of going for the chest like Pete did with Hobby 😎
Originally posted by Dum Dum Duganlol that's ok.
It should not be the end all be all, but it should be factor in (just as any encounter, but certainly should not be anyones major point of there arguement or anything like that). There was fighting (training session) and they were heated at one another. Spiderman did not look to be pulling punches either when he whipped Wolverine into the wall and started talking shit. Wolverine then got serious, but context suggested Spiderman was the one to bring it to that level first. He also tried to dodge Wolverien attack and got hit.Also it not as if there other fights don't support Wolverine be able to tagg Spiderman.
It more evidence that Wolverine can tank Spidermans blows then it is for any speed feat.
also I just notice I quoted the wrong part of your post lol
TBH I didnt see no indication that he tried to dodge, Logan just attacked and hit him. The context also makes it clear that he didnt see or expect Logan to do anything like that. Even confirmed that on panel. And while Spider-man wasnt gentle himself, all he tried to do is web him up to a wall, its not like gutting someone is a natural responce to that. IMO this incident can be used but only in a "one is just sparring, while the other is going for the stab" kind of scenario, but not in an real all out (to the death) kind of battle.
You mean, after the attack? Pete was mostly going for his back and shoulders tbh. That hurts like hell but dont get you koed. Not that I think SM can ko him with a few hits, I dont.
Ofcourse Wolverine can tag Spider-man, but other fights indicate its extremely hard if Pete puts his mind to it. Definitely not something Logan can do with a single swipe 20 seconds after the beginning of the fight. Would take a long tough battle.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganWhich wasn't at his best and it was after Wolverine stabbed him.
When did he wail on him with effect? In Marvel Knights wolverine pretty much called him a whine ***** while taking Spiderman onslaught. Also what does throwing Wolverine out a window matter? when wolverine was completely fine?
He was fine later. So what?
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganThe ability to predict and react and whatnot.
What does beign a train fighter have to do with him being taken by surprised? He was literrally kidding and spiderman flipped out and attacked him out of no were...........WHo said he was faster then Spiderman?
also why do you say peope say wolverine a "trained fighter", as if it not true? The way you word it, implies your not sold on the notion.
Carver has implied it.
I think people overstate it.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWWhich wuld've still be a training session hence not usable in a vs all out fight. 😈
Just an example of Pete not knowing shit... to quote Logan, he popped claw only a little.If he didn't hold back, claws would be sticking outwards Parker's back. I know you like saying "hence" 😛 If backflip hits the target, then Parker breaks his foot. Ha!
Now he doesn't have SS and thus Wolverine dim maks him in the nuts. He'd actually do that instead of going for the chest like Pete did with Hobby 😎
More like snap his neck, as Logan already twice confirmed Pete could do it with ease.😛
Van Dame and Parker are the only MA nmasters who can perform a Dim Mak.😒 He already defeated Batroc the Leaper. You hear me? BATROC THE FRIKKIN LEAPER!!!!
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Which wasn't at his best and it was after Wolverine stabbed him.He was fine later. So what? The ability to predict and react and whatnot.
Carver has implied it.
I think people overstate it.
I mena he was fine directly after he was thrown out the window. He shown page later walking right by the broken window saying "no one can take a joke" Wolverine was not even phased.
So again were was this instances were spiderman attacks were effective against wolverine?
Ability to predict what? that his ally woudl flipp his shit and throw him out a window?
Carver is not me or every wolverine fan, stop acting like what he says is opinion of every wolverine fan, when it not remotely close.
How do you overstate that he a trained fighter? in what senses?
Originally posted by SamZED
Anyway, Dum Dum, Stilt. I'll continue tomorrow. In 3 hours im supposed to wake up for work and im still up. That cant be good for debating skills.
Though I disagree with you not thinking he attempted a dodge, he jumped to the side, seem like a dodge to me, but perhap im mistaken.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
He technically stronger and more powerful then, then he is now.I mena he was fine directly after he was thrown out the window. He shown page later walking right by the broken window saying "no one can take a joke" Wolverine was not even phased.
So again were was this instances were spiderman attacks were effective against wolverine?
Ability to predict what? that his ally woudl flipp his shit and throw him out a window?
Carver is not me or every wolverine fan, stop acting like what he says is opinion of every wolverine fan, when it not remotely close.
How do you overstate that he a trained fighter? in what senses?
So are we switching feats and stats when we want?
Several.
Yea since he told him not to say another world.
By what people said. And other people have said he was faster recently and in the past. I never said it was everyone, and you generalize yourself quite often. If you disagree that's fine, but you need not get defensive and attack every post I say, even when it wasn't addressed to you in the first place.
Originally posted by SamZED
Which wuld've still be a training session hence not usable in a vs all out fight. 😈More like snap his neck, as Logan already twice confirmed Pete could do it with ease.😛
Van Dame and Parker are the only MA nmasters who can perform a Dim Mak.😒 He already defeated Batroc the Leaper. You hear me? BATROC THE FRIKKIN LEAPER!!!!
With CIS/CIP it's never an all out fight.
Twice?!
Batroc owned everyone in Marvel Adventures vin Including Spidey and Wolvie.
Originally posted by SamZED
Anyway, Dum Dum, Stilt. I'll continue tomorrow. In 3 hours im supposed to wake up for work and im still up. That cant be good for debating skills.
Sure, have a good rest. I had to study and pass the administrative law today, so I'm not exactly at my peak (human) either 😛
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So are we switching feats and stats when we want?Several.
Yea since he told him not to say another world.
By what people said. And other people have said he was faster recently and in the past. I never said it was everyone, and you generalize yourself quite often. If you disagree that's fine, but you need not get defensive and attack every post I say, even when it wasn't addressed to you in the first place.
really, and they are? You said he effective wailed on him, can I see this instance?
Just becuase he said not another word, does not mean he expected to get thown out a window. Not like Wolverine never done similar to spiderman
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1567/mcfarlaneyp6.jpg
You said people imply number of individuals. Can you please point another of these individuals out, and if you could make it some one current not from 2005.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganBy what?
switching? How did I switch, by bring up that he stronger then his current self? which this thread is. As it always assumed.really, and they are? You said he effective wailed on him, can I see this instance?
Just becuase he said not another word, does not mean he expected to get thown out a window. Not like Wolverine never done similar to spiderman
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1567/mcfarlaneyp6.jpgYou said people imply number of individuals. Can you please point another of these individuals out, and if you could make it some one current not from 2005.
He pushed him into a wall. What about it? He just looked at him.
On my thread I made some said he was faster too.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWHe held him to a wall while Spider-Man looked at him. Wolverine was looking at the pavement. 😛
What about the instance from Fallen Son when Wolverine shrugs off his punch, tackles Pete and smashes into the wall and has him at clawpoint?😛
Dum Dum is so fun, I love him. 🙂
