Originally posted by illadelph12It's amazing how circular things can become.
It's like 2006 all over again...
And Zoom uses time based powers, at least I'm assuming that still is the case.
In which case I would think Odin has an easier time with Zoom then he would with Flash.
Odin has a large time based arsenal himself that can probably nullify Zoom's.
Plus this argument went the distance last time to some ridiculous things. I still feel that yes Zoom could land a billion years worth of punches on us but we're not talking about a normal human level mind we're talking about Odin.
Originally posted by zeelActually Flash in comics vs a forum flash is very very one sided. Flash hardly ever breaks the speedforce barrier which puts him above constraints such as time which would make zoom's timestop useless. In comic he's done it without assistance but whenever Zoom is around he seems to struggle with FTL movement.
beating flash does not put you on par with odin .
Originally posted by leonidasIt shouldn't be but I haven't kept up with him since negative speed force nonsense. His power was purely timestop originally he should have been constrained to the normal endurance of a person in terms of distance he could go unless he was resting while time stopped.
oh, i'll bite. let's say he could land 10 000 000 punches before odin can throw one.i wonder--is zoom's endurance also infinite?
Because Flash in a forum setting is like a cube being or abstract.
Seriously, like others have said, taking these...shaky - which is being kind - arguments to their logical conclusion winds up with Flash (and/or Zoom) leveling beings with force so far beyond comprehension, they'd likely be shattering Celestials and beating down abstracts while busting untold galaxies in a single second.
It's absurd as shit. Nothing in the comics come even CLOSE to displaying the kind of arguments we see for these two and yet, we're supposed to be believe that "without CIS" they can unload physical punishment so far beyond top tiers as Superman and Thor that their damage output can equal the mass of thousands of galaxies?
****. That.
Originally posted by leonidasSort of defeats the purpose. grumpy
oh, i'll bite. let's say he could land 10 000 000 punches before odin can throw one.
Originally posted by leonidasThe speedsters' endurance shouldn't be infinite. And it's consistently referenced that the Flashes require increased nutrition to sustain their increased metabolism.
i wonder--is zoom's endurance also infinite?
But based on feats, for all intents and purposes, their stamina is practically infinite. For example, Barry effortlessly fixed an entire building in an instant (which would require laying each brick, hammering each nail, painting each wall, etc.) without stopping. That's gotta be like thousands if not millions of individual actions within the course of an instant.
Wally himself carried 532,000 individuals (one or two at a time) without stopping in an instant. With that number, running to and from and lifting and placing each person must be millions of arm/leg movements. All without a break.
If an IMP is just a simple punch while approaching light speed -- and Flashes can, in fact, perform millions of movements like throwing your fist -- it seems that they can throw millions of IMPs without getting tired.
And well, Zoom and the Flashes could just rest in their own localized but accelerated time in between doing all their shenanigans if they needed to take a breather. That's if you give their superspeed its full faith and credit on a purely extrapolatory viewpoint. Which begs the question: should we be doing that?