CISless Zoom vs Odin

Originally posted by zopzop
Except that's not true. The worst that was happening with Galactus/Mephisto was solar systems being destroyed. Odin/Seth was GALAXIES, as in plural, being destroyed and stars across the UNIVERSE being reignited! Not to mention the Odin/Seth fight was being fought on every plane of reality.

You'd have a point except that it was mentioned ON PANEL. Unlike Zoom fans, at least Odin supporters have on panel proof of his feats/power.

Odin would literally blink Zoom out of existence.

Originally posted by Galan007
What's not true? I certainly hope you aren't implying that Meph in his own realm and Galactus aren't superior to Odin/Seth.... But for some reason I think you are. g007-psyduck

I don't find Mephisto, in or out of his realm, impressive. Like at all. Entire GALAXIES were being shattered, dead stars throughout the UNIVERSE were being reignited, and 616 reality was in danger of destruction while Odin/Seth were throwing down. None of this was going on with Galactus/Mephisto.

I understand it was mentioned on panel, but it seems like a bit of hyperbole was thrown into the mix (for reasons I already mentioned.) I'm not talking about Odin vs. Zoom fyi -- could care less about that.

And again, I'd say you have a point BUT three characters with heightened awareness said all reality or at least the entire universe were in danger of destruction. Between that and the narration, it's kind of hard to call it hyperbole.

Tbh, I could care less about any of what I'm talking about. I'm arguing just to argue.

Meh, I know the feeling.

Originally posted by zopzop
And again, I'd say you have a point BUT three characters with heightened awareness said all reality or at least the entire universe were in danger of destruction. Between that and the narration, it's kind of hard to call it hyperbole.

Kind of reminds me of BCA Galactus -- he had the potential to devour all of creation (per character statements), but he never actually devoured so much as a single universe. Like I said though, I don't really care either way.

Originally posted by zopzop
Meh, I know the feeling.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So basically Odin loses but Galactus doesn't for no actual reason then?

You set a threshold for the durability level needed to shrug off Zoom's blows and I presented scans of Odin's durability on that level. You've not presented any actual argument outside of I feel like it.

Odin wins, he stops Zoom in his tracks with his amazing reflexes, and then blitzes him. Feats don't matter as we get to pick and choose when they have any influence.

You're the one bent over.

I answered your questions. You know, I don't mind selective reading, it's good but you are surely abusing it for the worse. 🙄

I wish for you that feats wouldn't matter, I really do. But let's sh1t on feats, let's just say Odin is Galactus equal, no, he is even better, let's say he is LTs equal, so they can fight his fights, the fights he would lose (with stips like this) bored

In your wet dreams, little boy. I pity you though. But don't mind, there will come a day when someone will bent over for you, don't give up 👆.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So you're agreeing with me ODG. Thanks buddy. I agree the most likely scenerio is that Odin would win the fight. Never have I ever said otherwise.. not even once. I consider Odin the winner of a fight that wasn't concluded. This whole argument started with Silent and two othes saying it was a FACT Odin would've won. That is the argument here. As you have stated.. it's not a fact, but more, a very probable outcome.

Had Thanos a long and rich history of going Round Two all over their opponents' butts, it would be less disingenuous. I think we can dispense with the semantics here.

Originally posted by Galan007
Oh that battle? Yeah, I wouldn't expect much damage to be done to Mephisto's realm (ie. Hell.) Either Way, Meph in his own realm, and Galactus >> Odin/Seth.

Right, because if Beyonder and MM were capable of something, then Odin/Seth must be too. g007-psyduck

Once again, I'm not sure if you're serious or not because this is pretty easy to understand. Who cares if Molecule Man and Beyonder are more powerful than Odin/Seth? They weren't going out of their way to prevent damage to the surrounding area. The example is sound.

You're arguing that it was mostly hyperbole for no other reason other than the surrounding area wasn't destroyed. If everyone from Top Tiers to Skyfathers to Cosmic Entities to Nigh Omnipotent Beings can go toe to toe and not destroy the land they're standing on, clearly your line of thinking is flawed.

Originally posted by zopzop
ON PANEL, we have Odin/Seth wrecking as much havoc as MM/Beyonder. That's ALL Rage is saying.

Also, Odin fought the Celestials, wait for it........................................all of ONE time. Since that fight new info on the Celestials has emerged and they aren't so hot. Thor busting Exitar's outer shell and skull, Sue literally KILLING Exitar, theres more I'm probably missing but you should get the point.

What? If you're implying that I'm arguing Odin/Seth = Beyonder/Molecule Man, you're way off.

My point is that arguing Odin/Seth was mostly hyperbole based on the destruction caused to the battle field is idiotic when entities like Beyonder/Molecule Man can go toe to toe and not destroy even the ground underneath their feet.

Originally posted by SasuOna
Rage is seriously trying to extrapolate that Odin is on par with MM and Beyonder now?
I swear this thread just opened my eyes about you

Yep Odin who can't even beat one celestial is on par with Beyonder who beat all of them. SMH

mhmm

There's something very wrong with you.

So can we go back to Zoom and why he would be able to wreck Odin and not your poor attempts to try and set him up as equals to entities that are way beyond him in power.

I don't care if you think he'd wreck Odin -idiotic as it is- but you sure as hell better be ready to claim he'd beat down everyone from Galactus to whatever other entity that lacks the necessary feats according to your line of thinking.

It's really that simple. You think Zoom could take down Odin? Fine. You think Zoom fails to take down Galactus? Name the durability feat(s) that have led you to the conclusion.

Although I doubt applying actual common sense appeals to you. It would either further demean your stance or just force you to concede that you were being stupid.

Lack of consistency and double standards have been rampant in this thread. That shit won't fly.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I answered your questions. You know, I don't mind selective reading, it's good but you are surely abusing it for the worse. 🙄

I wish for you that feats wouldn't matter, I really do. But let's sh1t on feats, let's just say Odin is Galactus equal, no, he is even better, let's say he is LTs equal, so they can fight his fights, the fights he would lose (with stips like this) bored

In your wet dreams, little boy. I pity you though. But don't mind, there will come a day when someone will bent over for you, don't give up 👆.

You sure did. You claimed Galactus would win because of feats that are on a particular level. I posted showings for Odin that match the showings you pointed out and yet he still somehow loses while Galactus wins. This is the same shit that the Zoom side was mocking the Odin side for. Galactus wins just because he's a Cosmic Entity = Odin wins just because he's a Skyfather.

Have you made an actual point in this entire discussion yet?

It does not matter how Odin and Galactus match up in regards to power levels.

The way we rank them is utterly irrelevant you inbred loon. The level of feats necessary to defeat Zoom are what's relevant, and based on the criteria you set out for Galactus:

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
with an omni-directional attack that engulfs the entire galaxy, enough to hit Zoom.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
No Galactus taking physical punishment from herlads and amped Skyfathers (like Chaos-King amped Zeus), with ease most of the time, gives me the impression that he can take Zooms blows long long enough to take notice and react.

Odin wins.

Consistency and across the board application of standards is what matters.

Says the man with the gaping anus.

All I'm getting from you is that when Galactus is getting hurt by physical attacks theres no notion of him being weak or PIS being present at all. Therefore its his standard in your deluded head.

There is no double standard its just you in your fervor to wank Odin seem to be ignoring everyone responding to you about the fact that Odin and Galactus are not equals and theres an obvious difference to what effects them physically despite your best attempts at lowballing Galactus to bring him down to Odin's level.

Zoom punching Odin with an IMP, Superman level punch, or even a fingersnap would hurt him since hes been hurt by stuff like Thor hitting him with mjolnir. In comparison to Galactus we know that he had to be starving for him to even be phased by something like that.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You sure did. You claimed Galactus would win because of feats that are on a particular level. I posted showings for Odin that match the showings you pointed out and yet he still somehow loses while Galactus wins. This is the same shit that the Zoom side was mocking the Odin side for. Galactus wins just because he's a Cosmic Entity = Odin wins just because he's a Skyfather.

Have you made an actual point in this entire discussion yet?

[b]It does not matter how Odin and Galactus match up in regards to power levels.

The way we rank them is utterly irrelevant you inbred loon. The level of feats necessary to defeat Zoom are what's relevant, and based on the criteria you set out for Galactus:

Odin wins.

Consistency and across the board application of standards is what matters.

Says the man with the gaping anus. [/B]

The level Galactus has is a level Odin can't hope to reach. I don't know what's wrong with you but kid, you got issues. bored

Galactus wins because he is much much more powerful and can take more damage then Odin. You can't seriously be so obsessed with Odin, jesus.

Yes more then one, you just ignored them all and whined and raged about Odin being Galactus equal facepalm.

Consistency and across the board. Your fanboyism surely is consitent giggle

It is relevant, not to you, but you are "special" i know the people tell you this since years, all those lonely years in this dark cellar. 😄

Odin loses with this stips.

Honestly Rage, do you really think this is cool? Being bold and insulting over the internet, on an comic book forum? Honestly, do you think someone in the back applauds you and thinks, wow he has to be a tough man in real life (smart, handsome, with a hot chick and muscles)? C'mon, only an moron and coward behaves like you do now. It's easy over the internet, you would never act this way in real life. So please stop it, it's really really embarassing. It's just a friendly advice, I'm not angry at you at all, I pity you. And the "Joke" that you **** someone in the ass, because you delusionally think, you won an (for the universe) important debate about freaking comics, doesn't makes it better, honestly. I feel vicarious embarrassment when I read your super tough "insults". Oh boy. I think you need help and some fresh air and maybe some real friends... One compliment I can give you though, you are an intertesting subject, a good stereotype of the Forum"bully". 😉

Nevermind, I don't believe you understand this at all.

Rage is a rich, handsome, smart pimp. I know. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If everyone from Top Tiers to Skyfathers to Cosmic Entities to Nigh Omnipotent Beings can go toe to toe and not destroy the land they're standing on, clearly your line of thinking is flawed.

Think, Rage... Think. g007-psyduck

I felt Mephisto's name being invoked from another thread and immediately braced for disappointment.

Originally posted by zopzop
I don't find Mephisto, in or out of his realm, impressive. Like at all.

Originally posted by zopzop
Entire GALAXIES were being shattered, dead stars throughout the UNIVERSE were being reignited, and 616 reality was in danger of destruction while Odin/Seth were throwing down. None of this was going on with Galactus/Mephisto.

Or we accept that lack of collateral damage is never an indication of destructive power. Only its presence is.