Darth Maul and Darth Sidious vs. Jedi Galen Marek and Rots Obi Wan

Started by Nephthys3 pages

AniVader is now the canonal name of that incarnation.

It sounds like a weedkiller and that pleases me.

Originally posted by ares834
Kenobi is perhaps the most skilled maste rof Soresu ever. He also managed to take on AniVader in a fight. Sidious will defeat him but it's not going to be instantly.
Let me reiterate; Kenobi has shown nothing that makes me think he can hold off Sidious' swordplay for more than a few brief seconds.

Originally posted by Nephthys
AniVader is now the canonal name of that incarnation.

It sounds like a weedkiller and that pleases me.

I dunno, VadeAkin sounds pretty cool.

Originally posted by ares834
Why? Sids would win handily but I'm not sure why he should be destroyed in seconds.

"Not Powerful enough are you to fight this Emporer"

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
"Not Powerful enough are you to fight this Emporer"

Yeah, I mean if Sidious tore through three accomplished swordsmen in a matter of seconds, then Kenobi shouldn't prove to any more difficult (If he is, then it's by a very small margin).

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
Yeah, I mean if Sidious tore through three accomplished swordsmen in a matter of seconds, then Kenobi shouldn't prove to any more difficult (If he is, then it's by a very small margin).

He can be more difficult and still be not near powerful enough to face Sids.

I mean, what good does being able to hold him off for 30+ seconds in sabers (but not the force), then die, do anyone?

Originally posted by Q99
He can be more difficult and still be not near powerful enough to face Sids.

I mean, what good does being able to hold him off for 30+ seconds in sabers (but not the force), then die, do anyone?

But the fact is Sidious can dispose of him anytime he wants with the Force. And even in Sabers only, Sidious will win without any real difficulty regardless of the number of seconds Kenobi lasts.

Originally posted by Q99
He can be more difficult and still be not near powerful enough to face Sids.

I mean, what good does being able to hold him off for 30+ seconds in sabers (but not the force), then die, do anyone?

Not really sure what you're saying here.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
But the fact is Sidious can dispose of him anytime he wants with the Force. And even in Sabers only, Sidious will win without any real difficulty regardless of the number of seconds Kenobi lasts.

Granted.

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
Not really sure what you're saying here.

Just because he'll lose, doesn't mean he'll lose as easily as Mace's squad did.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
"Not Powerful enough are you to fight this Emporer"

Sure. But that doesn't mean he would be torn apart in seconds.

Originally posted by Q99
Granted.

Just because he'll lose, doesn't mean he'll lose as easily as Mace's squad did.

Oh but he would.

Quotes aside, I've seen NOTHING that suggests Obi Wan Kenobi lives up to the hype of being the "GREATEST DEFENSIVE DUELIST EVER." ..............Nothing.

It's accurate to say the RotS novelization really boosted that title of his.

And for good reason. Both Dooku and Anakin were unable to pierce through his defenses. Comparatively Fisto loses to to Ventress.

DP
But the fact is Sidious can dispose of him anytime he wants with the Force.

That's not a fact, actually. Simply because Dooku can do something doesn't mean Sidious can. And what proof exists that Sidious is actually on par with Dooku?

Proof? How quaint.

4 reelz

Originally posted by ares834
And for good reason. Both Dooku and Anakin were unable to pierce through his defenses. Comparatively Fisto loses to to Ventress.

Yea, the Anakin fight really shows it. Anakin's an incredibly powerful offensive duelist, and Obi-wan was able to hold a defense for several minutes.

Fisto's good, but defense isn't his strongest suit and Anakin would've won that one.

I'm of the opinion that if Obi-wan had been with Mace instead of Fisto, Palpatine would've gone down because Obi-wan would've survived the initial blitz long enough for Windu to cut in.

Q99
I'm of the opinion that if Obi-wan had been with Mace instead of Fisto, Palpatine would've gone down because Obi-wan would've survived the initial blitz long enough for Windu to cut in.

Likely. Any man capable of getting his ass kicked by Count Dooku is pretty much good enough to co-thrash Darth Sidious.

Originally posted by SlightlyFlaccid
. And what proof exists that Sidious is actually on par with Dooku?

Lol

Originally posted by ares834
And for good reason. Both Dooku and Anakin were unable to pierce through his defenses. Comparatively Fisto loses to to Ventress.

1)When has Dooku ever had trouble with Obi-Wan's defences? Only in the novel while simultaneously fighting off a "Destroyer Droid with a Lightsaber"

And the same novel has Dooku penetrating Kenobi's defences with a kick to the face knocking him down, so point is moot.

2) According to both Nick Gillard and the ROTS novel, Anakin and Obi-Wan both knew each other's lightsaber moves inside out, which is why neither of them could get through each other's defences. Not to mention Anakin at that point was clearly no where near as effective a fighter as when he trounced Dooku.

3) Ventress has also put Obi-Wan down while fighting off Anakin.

Originally posted by SlightlyFlaccid
...Any man capable of getting his ass kicked by Count Dooku is pretty much good enough to co-thrash Darth Sidious.

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