Christians usually assume I am a Christian unless they directly ask me my beliefs. I do not know why, but I can assure you it is not because they have ever caught me reading a Bible, saying a prayer, or going to church. If you do not think you have met a respectful atheist, you probably do not realize how many atheists you know!
I have just as many aggressive atheist/agnostic friends as I do aggressive religious friends.
I take that back: I have more aggressive agnostic/atheist friends than I do religious friends. I get more flack for being a Mormon, form atheists/agnostics than I do from other Christian, Muslim, and Buddhists.
One of my atheist friends recently told me on facebook, "It saddens me. I lost all of my confidence in your mental abilities today." because I said I could not give up my belief in a higher power.
Even when arguing about how crazy or wrong Mormons are, with other Christians, they still never resort to petty name calling like that.
I can relate: I think people that pray about what shirt to put on, how long to microwave their leftovers, etc...are just idiots (I apologize for the harsh language). Imagine how much more irritating that is to an atheist.
Originally posted by lord xyzHahahahahaha! That was low....
I used to argue with christians many a year ago.Now I realise atheists who argue or criticise religious folk on a regular basis are nothing special, or that much better other than a higher morality and spiritual understand, I guess. How ironic.
I'm an Atheist and most of the time I'm pretty easy going when it comes to religion. There have been times where I have gone on one of those unholy rants about how silly religion can really be though. It is almost always triggered by a religious person imposing their beliefs my way though.
When it comes to intolerance it's only natural that athiests are likely to be more intolerant towards religion than those who believe in something. Any moderate religious person is going to have no problem with any other religion because they themselves believe in something. This being said religious people are far more likely to be intolerant of pretty much anything else... simply because they have a doctrine that tells them what is right and what is wrong.
As a side point though: It does really annoy me when a religious person pokes fun at something like Scientology... Scientology is ridiculous, but it is just as likely to be right as any other religion. As there is no evidence to support anything.
I don't have a problem with religion. I have a problem with people acting in ways that are just wildly irrational. People can be religions and not act like idiots (my whole family for example) but once you get into thinking like "the reason you should believe is because there is no reason to believe" which doesn't even make sense in and of it self I have a problem.
Originally posted by inimalist
ah, the "fake-breasts" fallacy
I recognize all fake breasts and so I know that all fake breasts look bad. But in reality there are many fake breasts that are well done and thus I do not notice them, thus my count of fake breasts only includes the ones that look bad. Yes?
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I recognize all fake breasts and so I know that all fake breasts look bad. But in reality there are many fake breasts that are well done and thus I do not notice them, thus my count of fake breasts only includes the ones that look bad. Yes?
bingo!
I don't think the bad looking part is necessary, but ya, fake boobs are ugg-o!
or, the ones I can tell are fake 🙂
Originally posted by mac-11
Personal experience only means as much as it does to whom it personally applies to. I mean, both atheists and theists have their belligerent "advocates." In my experience? I've met both. I recall, when I was finishing my theology research, visiting a christian church twice a week for a few months and some of the individuals that attended that church were not people you could hold a discussion with without them trying to tear you in half.I've also met atheists who are as equally "pushy" about their views as well. Both religious and non-religious individuals alike have their cantankerous members.
I don't associate with religious fanatics - that's not to say I don't associate with religious people - I do, and majority of my friends believe in something, be it Jesus, Muhammed, Moses, Krishna, reincarnation, astrology, astral projection or whatever.
I've had disagreements with religious people about their views, of course, but I sense when it's time to let go of the conversation, as they do, and we don't talk about it.
Zealous atheists will continue to push and provoke everyone there to the point that even those who don't believe in astrology, for example (that was the latest drama), will defend it.
Percentage wise, I've met far more atheists who were obnoxious and rude in regards to their lack of beliefs, that they would make other atheists around them cringe to the point of them turning agnostics in one conversation.
I'm happy to say, I haven't met many religious people who are like that. I worked with a pastor at University in China who has never ever brought religion into anything - he knows we'll disagree, so he doesn't bother, and of course, neither do I.
Originally posted by inimalist
😛I'm sure some look good, but even just the concept is really unappealing to me
I agree and I'm the same way. For the longest time...I thought there wasn't a single "job" that looked better than some smaller naturals.
Originally posted by inimalist
I don't even like girls who wear make-up in a noticeable way
I agree, as well. Some go too far. Some would look better with a bit less. But I don't mind if it's noticeable. Just not overdone.
What was this thread about, again? 😆
Originally posted by lil bitchinessYou know, it kinda looks like you only meet atheist fanatics because you don't associate with religious fanatics.....?
I don't associate with religious fanatics - that's not to say I don't associate with religious people - I do, and majority of my friends believe in something, be it Jesus, Muhammed, Moses, Krishna, reincarnation, astrology, astral projection or whatever.I've had disagreements with religious people about their views, of course, but I sense when it's time to let go of the conversation, as they do, and we don't talk about it.
Zealous atheists will continue to push and provoke everyone there to the point that even those who don't believe in astrology, for example (that was the latest drama), will defend it.
Percentage wise, I've met far more atheists who were obnoxious and rude in regards to their lack of beliefs, that they would make other atheists around them cringe to the point of them turning agnostics in one conversation.I'm happy to say, I haven't met many religious people who are like that. I worked with a pastor at University in China who has never ever brought religion into anything - he knows we'll disagree, so he doesn't bother, and of course, neither do I.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Anti-Religious people being zealous and borderline physically aggressive in an argument about God are far more common than religious ones, in my personal experience.
I've met 3 in the last 2 months alone.I am yet to meet an atheist who isn't aggressive about not believing in God or trying to convince me how my belief in reincarnation is utter bullshit. I've met Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Janis, Hindus and what not who are just cool with whatever and do not make an issue out of others beliefs and in many cases avoid talking about that subject altogether. This is personal for many people, and majority I've met just prefer not to talk about it in group.
I met a guy who got pissed off when we spoke about astrology - he was so anti-religious and anti-anything-that-isn't-science that he was yelling, not letting others speak, interrupting and even being physically intimidating.
Another one I met was at the party who decided to get into an argument with the host about why believing in any kind of spiritual things is utter bullshit.If this is what Blaxican meant, then I am inclined to agree.
or perhaps the only ones you noticed were the ones who ended up arguing with you. infact, theres probably way more people that you never talked theology with that are atheists, but you never thought of them as such because most people have to be TOLD that your an atheist, otherwise they assume that your theist.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I don't associate with religious fanatics - that's not to say I don't associate with religious people - I do, and majority of my friends believe in something, be it Jesus, Muhammed, Moses, Krishna, reincarnation, astrology, astral projection or whatever.I've had disagreements with religious people about their views, of course, but I sense when it's time to let go of the conversation, as they do, and we don't talk about it.
Zealous atheists will continue to push and provoke everyone there to the point that even those who don't believe in astrology, for example (that was the latest drama), will defend it.
Percentage wise, I've met far more atheists who were obnoxious and rude in regards to their lack of beliefs, that they would make other atheists around them cringe to the point of them turning agnostics in one conversation.I'm happy to say, I haven't met many religious people who are like that. I worked with a pastor at University in China who has never ever brought religion into anything - he knows we'll disagree, so he doesn't bother, and of course, neither do I.
you gotta admit, beleiving in astrology is pretty nuts (even if it isnt sinister).
there is something inherently wrong with people who challenge other people's beleifs. infact thats how all progress is made. ofcourse with that, it also has to be admitted that theres many situation where it is offensive or wrong in certain ways, while simultaneously being necessary and right in other ways. think about the black panthers or counter racism or nelson mandellah etc.
Originally posted by inimalist
bingo!I don't think the bad looking part is necessary, but ya, fake boobs are ugg-o!
or, the ones I can tell are fake 🙂
Nine times out of ten they're obvious though. Natural breasts just aren't perfectly spherical.
I mean, we put a man on the moon, but we can't make realistic fake boobs...
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Nine times out of ten they're obvious though. Natural breasts just aren't perfectly spherical.
That's exactly the fallacy he's talking about. Unless you really examine every woman you meet you have no idea if you're looking at natural breasts or well done fake ones, otherwise you're only seeing the ones that are poorly done.