HP Doomsday vs King Thor

Started by paladius7 pages

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King Thor without the Odinforce is just regular Thor powerlevel wise.

Originally posted by paladius
we are talking about king thor 🤣
The Thor that took them on was without the odinforce. It was cut off by Strange. Do you read our posts ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Thor that took them on was without the odinforce. It was cut off by Strange. Do you read our posts ?

While he lost an arm to Logan with the Odin Force on.

Originally posted by SquallX
While he lost an arm to Logan with the Odin Force on.

He lost the arm during his fight with the Hulk and Thing.

Plus, Wolverine slashed Thor's wrist/forearm, Thor's arm was removed above the elbow.

Originally posted by SquallX
While he lost an arm to Logan with the Odin Force on.
Proof ? He didn't lose a limb and was easily tanking the incinerator beams which destroyed Loki so I think it's safe to say he was durable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
DD has never been able to evolve past physical force. Ever. There's always been a level which can damage him and though he can adapt his body past certain attacks he's never been able to evolve past physical force or power, ever.

By his logic you can say DD adapts and beats anyone but if you don't have any evidence to support him evolving past a King Thor like being you have nothing.

This has nothing to do with DD evolving past not being one-shotted.
DD may not be able evolve past being one-shot (at least in the beginning). But he can evolve to resist a certain attack that is currently for the moment not one-shotting him. That means any attack Thor would apply to DD, which is not one-shotting him but merely hurting him, DD would evolve on the spot to become more and more resistant. That means it only gets better for DD as the fight progress and not worst.

Also, If DD catches KT then he can stomp him before KT makes another action. KT's only chance is to BFR at the start or keep him at a distance and hope he doesn't evolve past his attacks.

I agree with this ^^^. What people forget is that DS hit DD with his OE not once, but twice. The first one knocked him into a building, the second shot appears to have left a lot of blood on the ground and then DD is shown punching out of the ground. Against popular belief, the bloody mess on the floor after DS's second shot doesn't belong to DD. In the final book, superman says "According to waverider's story, this monster is made of solid mass, no blood, no tissue -- no vital organs." So no bloody mess. The bloody goo probably belonged to bystanders when DD crashed into the building.

DD survived 2 shots of Omega Beams as DS said "from point blank range" and beats him near to death in 2 panels. DS was so beat up that superman had to hook up a motherbox to heal him. There was nothing that could have stopped DD in that arc, other than bfr or what they did, which is bfr in itself. When DD crashlanded on apokolyps, DS actually contemplated evacuating the entire planet. When have you seen DS this scared? DD destroyed DS in that they had to retcon him into an avatar. Eradicator's energy amped superman with the motherbox was a brittle stick man to him. There is nothing King Thor can do here other than bfr or retreat.

Or just hit him with Adamantium+ level force/energy.

DD's durabilty is not above Wolverine's adamantium skeleton and certainly not even close to Cap's Shield in my opinion. There's even more examples during King Thor's run of him scrapping seemingly indestructable objects. I think the writer had a short list of Marvel's most impervious items and just ticked them off one at a time.

I think King Thor's eye beams are a huge step above Darkseid's Omega Beams. I'm kind a curious if anyone out there thinks they are fairly equal in power.

^ No. Omega Effect's been tanked by Superman and his HV, diverted by GL energy, completely deflected by Wonder Woman's bracers and for those who keep arguing that pre-Crisis is valid or Darkseid, they were also diverted by Firestorm.

King Thor blew right through Cap's shield and reduced Wolverine's adamantium skeleton to slag.

Originally posted by Diesldude
When have you seen DS this scared?

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Originally posted by h1a8
This has nothing to do with DD evolving past not being one-shotted.
DD may not be able evolve past being one-shot (at least in the beginning). But he can evolve to resist a certain attack that is currently for the moment not one-shotting him. That means any attack Thor would apply to DD, which is not one-shotting him but merely hurting him, DD would evolve on the spot to become more and more resistant. That means it only gets better for DD as the fight progress and not worst.

Also, If DD catches KT then he can stomp him before KT makes another action. KT's only chance is to BFR at the start or keep him at a distance and hope he doesn't evolve past his attacks.

The hammer toss which oneshotted the desak destroyer armor who was supposedly immune to godly powers.

Boom. You also have no proof it takes one shot to kill him and that he evolves past anything else.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Or just hit him with Adamantium+ level force/energy.

Which wouldn't do anything since the OE couldn't do anything to him.
Note: the OE instant vapored two missles that were the equivalent of adamantium. KT probably would have destroyed the missles as well but not with the kind of conviction the OE did it with.

Originally posted by h1a8
Which wouldn't do anything since the OE couldn't do anything to him.
Note: the OE instant vapored two missles that were the equivalent of adamantium. KT probably would have destroyed the missles as well but not with the kind of conviction the OE did it with.

Destroying part of Cap's shield and using a single Mjolnir toss to decapitate the Destroyer is infinitely more impressive than what the OE did and failed to do in that story, though.

Originally posted by h1a8
Which wouldn't do anything since the OE couldn't do anything to him.
Note: the OE instant vapored two missles that were the equivalent of adamantium. KT probably would have destroyed the missles as well but not with the kind of conviction the OE did it with.

Proof that they were "equivalent of adamantium"?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The hammer toss which oneshotted the desak destroyer armor who was supposedly immune to godly powers.

Boom. You also have no proof it takes one shot to kill him and that he evolves past anything else.


You are always arguing its all about how the characters are portrayed and not just about feats. Well
The proof was in the intentions of the writer. Did you even read the arc?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Proof that they were "equivalent of adamantium"?

Superman couldn't put a scratch on them and Superman is strong enough to at least dent adamantium if not crack it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman couldn't put a scratch on them and Superman is strong enough to at least dent adamantium if not crack it.

No, he's not.

BTW, Cap's shield >>> Adamantium.

Even if we assume Superman can dent/crack adamantium, and said missiles were composed of a material equal to or around the same level of adamantium, Cap's shield > adamantium.