Originally posted by dadudemonThe thing you said we saw, hence my "when did we see" part, you jerknigga.
Define "that".
DeomincPhaggotuhuh: Yah his time field does dissipate kido and shiz. In fact Barragan even makes a long, strenuous multi-page monologue about how even kido is nullified because its a creation that eventually ends, or some shiz. When the fat guy tries to hit him with kido the energy just desinitigrates.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
The thing you said we saw, hence my "when did we see" part, you jerknigga.DeomincPhaggotuhuh: Yah his time field does dissipate kido and shiz. In fact Barragan even makes a long, strenuous multi-page monologue about how even kido is nullified because its a creation that eventually ends, or some shiz. When the fat guy tries to hit him with kido the energy just desinitigrates.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v42/c368/19.html
He's using his Respira to age the Kido. It's not due to his Time-Field.
Originally posted by dadudemonUh... No it's not? 😐
Because "that" is exactly how he was defeated.
He was defeated by Hachigen teleporting the fat man's own decaying arm inside Barragan. 😐
Barragan has never been overwhelmed by amount of attacks, only by an attack being so close that he could not decay it in time.
But it matters not. Yamamoto can continue spraying fire as long as it takes.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Uh... No it's not? 😐He was defeated by Hachigen teleporting the fat man's own decaying arm inside Barragan. 😐
Barragan has never been overwhelmed by amount of attacks, only by an attack being so close that he could not decay it in time.
But it matters not. Yamamoto can continue spraying fire as long as it takes.
That's not what I meant.
He was injured, not defeated. Freudian slip. I'm not even kidding.
My point was this:
Originally posted by dadudemon
We saw, quite clearly, that Bargs could be overloaded with an energetic enough attack in a short period of time.
I think that Yamamoto's fire could easily get through the Respira. Let alone the unreleased field which did nothing beyond blocking a kick. I think Yamamoto could kill him before he gets a chance to release; even then, he could just pull a soifon. His fire-field was able to restrain Aizen so its even better than that cube they used on him; he can just set up the field and burn away until Barragan is toast.
Originally posted by dadudemonAh, I see.
That's not what I meant.He was injured, not defeated. Freudian slip. I'm not even kidding.
My point was this:
Thing is though, the Espada numbers only really mean amount of Reitsu.
So Stark has more Reitsu than Barragan.
But Barragan is much more broken. estahuh
Same principle with Yammy actually, IIRC it is confirmed that despite his monstrous amount of Reitsu that made him the Cero Espada, he was unable to mold his Reitsu as effectively to use the broken abilities of other Espada.
Or something equally stupid.
That said, Stark is fast enough that it would not surprise me if he could overwhelm Barragan with a barrage of Ceros from close range.
But I digress.
Yamamoto can pretty handily win this.
Originally posted by King KandyBarragan was demonstratably faster than Soifon in his sealed form.
I don't see the respira working, Starrk can just blast it away and keep firing until barry is dead. He never runs out of ammo and barragan has no real speed feats so it seems viable to me.
So he has a speed feat.
As good as Stark's? Nah.
But how does one "blast Respira away?"
Originally posted by King Kandy
Starrk's guns are incredibly broken. The only thing that made them seem weak was how shitty his aim is.
He had fairly decent aim. Just so happened that one person was fast enough to dodge most of the shots, while the other could send them right back at him.
Also, Starrk's Wolves are even more broken than his guns, seeing as they are remote controlled, indestructible forms that are more powerful than Ceros.
I also do not think Baraggan's Respira would affect those.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Barragan was demonstratably faster than Soifon in his sealed form.So he has a speed feat.
As good as Stark's? Nah.
But how does one "blast Respira away?"
By shooting at it? The respira took time to eat through a kido-shield, so it obviously is impacted by objects in its way. So I think firing a cero would displace the respira, and firing enough shots would yield a clear hit on barragan eventually.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He had fairly decent aim. Just so happened that one person was fast enough to dodge most of the shots, while the other could send them right back at him.Also, Starrk's Wolves are even more broken than his guns, seeing as they are remote controlled, indestructible forms that are more powerful than Ceros.
I also do not think Baraggan's Respira would affect those.
Originally posted by King Kandy
He has decent aim based on what? He missed almost every shot he fired. The only thing he managed to hit was standing still and at point blank. So he certainly has no good feats in that regard; he has almost a 100% failure rate.
Missed almost every shot he fired due to his aim? That's not what I saw.
Shunsui dodged most of the first Cero, but was about to get hit by the Cero Metratella, had it not been for Jushiro getting in the way with his weapon. Shunsui's also fast enough to dodge a point-blank Cero.
He had no problems in his aim when he was firing Ceros at Jushiro.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Missed almost every shot he fired due to his aim? That's not what I saw.
Shunsui dodged most of the first Cero, but was about to get hit by the Cero Metratella, had it not been for Jushiro getting in the way with his weapon. Shunsui's also fast enough to dodge a point-blank Cero.
He had no problems in his aim when he was firing Ceros at Jushiro.