Yamamoto vs Barragan.

I was more thinking of this.

I don't think he can punch through that.

He only has access to Respira in his released form, and Yama's gonna take him out long before he can use his release. awesome

Has that ever actually happened in Bleach?

Also I don't see why he can't slow it down. He's not actually blocking it. Yama punching harder isn't really going to mean much tbh.

So what your saying is Yamamoto will beat Barragan to death with his bones?

I could see it. 😮

Originally posted by Nephthys
Has that ever actually happened in Bleach?

Also I don't see why he can't slow it down. He's not actually blocking it. Yama punching harder isn't really going to mean much tbh.

Yep. Ichigo finished off Aizen before he could use his Bankai vin

Nah, his time field slowed down Soi-fon's kick, which helped him block the kick.

So yeah, Yama's punch will be slowed down, but his punches are like >>>>>>>> Soi-Fon's kicks.

Respira disintergrated a rock so it can disintergrate inanimate matter such as bone if he wants to. 😛

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yep. Ichigo finished off Aizen before he could use his Bankai vin

Nah, his time field slowed down Soi-fon's kick, which helped him block the kick.

So yeah, Yama's punch will be slowed down, but his punches are like >>>>>>>> Soi-Fon's kicks.

His punches will barely do anything that slow. Or at least given Barragan enough time to release.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
So yeah, Yama's punch will be slowed down, but his punches are like >>>>>>>> Soi-Fon's kicks.

He could be ****ing Superman, but if his fist is moving at 1 mm an hour, his punch isn't doing a damn thing unless you let it.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Does velocity x mass mean anything to you?

He could be ****ing Superman, but if his fist is moving at 1 mm an hour, his punch isn't doing a damn thing unless you let it.

Who is the one talking about a no limits fallacy now? =p

That's not a no-limits fallacy, it's basic physics.

It doesn't matter how strong you are, if your fist is moving a mm an hour, it isn't going to hurt anyone unless they literally let you essentially slowly "push" your fist through their face, and even then that requires a large difference between strength and durability.

Originally posted by NemeBro
That's not a no-limits fallacy, it's basic physics.

It doesn't matter how strong you are, if your fist is moving a mm an hour, it isn't going to hurt anyone unless they literally let you essentially slowly "push" your fist through their face, and even then that requires a large difference between strength and durability.

Your statement suggests Barragan could slow superman to 1mm an hour. That is very seriously bordering suggesting a no limit fallacy, assuming I am recalling Supermans speed correctly.

I put it to you the amount Barragan can slow by is probably directly relative to the difference in reiryoku. Since Yama-jii's is far greater than Barragans, Barragans effect would be very minimal to none existent. What we were originally talking about and you stopped replying to ;p Which I took as a concession.

How slow can he make things go?

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Your statement suggests Barragan could slow superman to 1mm an hour. That is very seriously bordering suggesting a no limit fallacy, assuming I am recalling Supermans speed correctly.

I put it to you the amount Barragan can slow by is probably directly relative to the difference in reiryoku. Since Yama-jii's is far greater than Barragans, Barragans effect would be very minimal to none existent. What we were originally talking about and you stopped replying to ;p Which I took as a concession.

And I'm not convinced the difference between Barragan's and Yamamoto's reiryoku is as great as the difference between Soifon's and Aizen's. Or that it wasn't an illusion.

Indeed. Which is why I don't think Yamamoto will have a problem punching him.

Or, pfft, cutting his head off.

Originally posted by NemeBro
No, it wasn't. Your interpretation of my post isn't correct. I said "He could be ****ing Superman, but if his fist is moving at 1 mm an hour, his punch isn't doing a damn thing unless you let it," nowhere did I suggest Barragan himself could slow Superman to that extent.

And I'm not convinced the difference between Barragan's and Yamamoto's reiryoku is as great as the difference between Soifon's and Aizen's. Or that it wasn't an illusion.

Ah, I see now. My mistake =p

Well whether you are convinced of that or not is potentially irrelevent. If I recall you don't think Yama-jii would lose to Barragan at all =p

Well no.

Regardless of whether or not Barragan's powers would work, Yamamoto's shikai should be very capable of killing Barragan.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Does velocity x mass mean anything to you?

He could be ****ing Superman, but if his fist is moving at 1 mm an hour, his punch isn't doing a damn thing unless you let it.

It does.
Does the word 'fictional verse' mean anything to you on the other hand? You really think that the force of his punches are tied to only the mass of the hand and its velocity? Or indeed, the force of any other attack in Bleach.
Either Yama can move his hand exponentially faster than Soi-fon can move her leg, or there's some other factor involved.

Okay.

So you're making a baseless assumption?

Good to know.

If you are suggesting that Yamamoto's punches carry any force without any degree of speed backing them up, by all means prove it.

By your assumptions, Yamamoto's punches would be carrying force provided by mass and speed, which would mean that either his arms are incredibly massive or that they would be traveling far far faster than Soi Fon's foot ever could.

So I find it hard to believe that his arm would be moving at "1 mm/hour" near Baraggan.

Wow, five pages of arguments, lol.

While Barragan is uber, Yamamoto is too cunning for him, and will defeat him.