Originally posted by Omega Vision
He can't send the OE back at DS if he can't catch it. He's not Wonder Woman and the OE generally isn't a straight beam.
Thor's blocked enough energy attacks -even at a point blank range- that I think he'd manage to block the Omega Effect if put in the same situation as Diana. As a matter of fact, didn't he do just that during the crossover? Then again, I remember him also getting hit while in the air. It should be noted though that he was only briefly stunned and that was before they became glorified heat vision.
For the record, Mjolnir can draw energy to it from all directions.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor's blocked enough energy attacks -even at a point blank range- that I think he'd manage to block the Omega Effect if put in the same situation as Diana. As a matter of fact, didn't he do just that during the crossover? Then again, I remember him also getting hit while in the air. It should be noted though that he was only briefly stunned and that was before they became glorified heat vision.For the record, Mjolnir can draw energy to it from all directions.
Marvel vs DC? All I remember is Darkseid fighting Thor and two other high level Marvel heroes while Thanos fought Captain Marvel and two other high levels from DC.
The first time DS was hit by his own OE he made all Superman-Darkseid fights look idiotic by demonstrating that while weakened and winded he could just bfr Superman with a gesture...
I truly despise a lot of the people who wrote Darkseid after Kirby.
it's true that mjolnir can just warp the energy to it, but thor doesnt do this often. Im also fairly certain DS could separate him from the hammer long enough to connect with the beams. DS should win
my main concern about the chratcer however is that it has become difficult to separate his jobbing from an unspoken depowerement over the years, that retarded showing with HV blocking the OE for instance. is the OE just nto what it used to be? if it were up to me, if SS SM and thor went up against him, he should still come out on top, that is the powerlevel that fits the charatcer concept. too bad they gotta wank SM to new heights and make it seem like he could kill DS any time he wanted to
@753
You do realize your opinion is irrelevant. We argue based off of what the writers give us we don't say who we think wins and ignore who does win. That's fanboy logic at it's core. The most ironic thing is we have seen various writers pen them as equals so it wasn't one showing that changed anything here which could be called a fluke.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Which crossover?Marvel vs DC? All I remember is Darkseid fighting Thor and two other high level Marvel heroes while Thanos fought Captain Marvel and two other high levels from DC.
The first time DS was hit by his own OE he made all Superman-Darkseid fights look idiotic by demonstrating that while weakened and winded he could just bfr Superman with a gesture...
I truly despise a lot of the people who wrote Darkseid after Kirby.
Yup, that one. IIRC, Thor just floated around doing pretty much nothing like he does at times when writers want him to be in the battle but not actively participating.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yup, that one. IIRC, Thor just floated around doing pretty much nothing like he does at times when writers want him to be in the battle but not actively participating.
There's always the heavy risk of succumbing to 'take them on one at a time' syndrome.
Look at martial arts movies, often times unless you have amazing choreography you end up having at least one scene where the resident badass beats three or more guys at once thanks to his enemies taking him on one or two at a time rather than just swarming him.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Fights involving more than a few characters at a time are hard to do.There's always the heavy risk of succumbing to 'take them on one at a time' syndrome.
Look at martial arts movies, often times unless you have amazing choreography you end up having at least one scene where the resident badass beats three or more guys at once thanks to his enemies taking him on one or two at a time rather than just swarming him.
It happens to Thor more often than other characters I've noticed. Sometimes he literally just floats there while Captain America and co. are giving it all they've got. Comes off as a real jerk or idiot.
Originally posted by quanchi112😆 lmao at you calling someone out on fanboy logic and I did not use my opinion of how he should be portrayed as evidence that DS would win, I was merely stating it.
@753You do realize your opinion is irrelevant. We argue based off of what the writers give us we don't say who we think wins and ignore who does win. That's fanboy logic at it's core. The most ironic thing is we have seen various writers pen them as equals so it wasn't one showing that changed anything here which could be called a fluke.
I did however present the manner through which he could and probably would get around mjolnir's power absorption, however. as for the several authors who portrayed them as equal, several others have portrayed him as SM's superior and he has a history of feats above the top tier class
Originally posted by 753How he should be portrayed is subjective how he is portrayed is not. It's simply looking at the facts. If you can't see the difference and the fact you are trying to dismiss showings is beyond me.
😆 lmao at you calling someone out on fanboy logic and I did not use my opinion of how he should be portrayed as evidence that DS would win, I was merely stating it.I did however present the manner through which he could and probably would get around mjolnir's power absorption, however. as for the several authors who portrayed them as equal, several others have portrayed him as SM's superior and he has a history of feats above the top tier class
Recently he hasn't been his superior Superman has beaten him three times by my count. Superman also has superior feats and is far better at melee combat.
Originally posted by quanchi112yes it subjective, thanks for stating the obvious, I never claimed otherwise and never used my opinion as evidence of him beating thor. what feat did I dismiss?
How he should be portrayed is subjective how he is portrayed is not. It's simply looking at the facts. If you can't see the difference and the fact you are trying to dismiss showings is beyond me.
superior feats to what? his superiority in cqc can be overcome by the rest of DS's powerset.
Recently he hasn't been his superior Superman has beaten him three times by my count. Superman also has superior feats and is far better at melee combat.
Originally posted by 753So you admit your own personal feelings on the matter are irrelevant.
yes it subjective, thanks for stating the obvious, I never claimed otherwise and never used my opinion as evidence of him beating thor. what feat did I dismiss?superior feats to what? his superiority in cqc can be overcome by the rest of DS's powerset.
Superman's speed and hv can counter Seid's omega beams and guess what already have.
The funny thing is having oneshot/kill/defeat beams pigeonhold the writer so of course we are going to see Darkseid fail time and time again.