Galactus is the third force of the universe between Eternity and Death. It takes a powerful universal cosmic being to take on even a moderately well fed Galactus. That's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay above any skyfather, even Odin. Even if Odin had the Destroyer armour it would make no difference. Galactus 10/10.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Except it hasn't. The Pantheons have been demoted to below the cosmic beings since Kirby introduced Galactus in 1968. He intended him to surpass the regular gods.
Except it has. Until recently, THOR'S freaking feats shxt all over Galactus'.
Ignoring the Chaos War fiasco, in the last few years Galactus FINALLY has feats befitting his supposed stature in the cosmos : the galaxy wiping feat while starving/near death, the last one standing vs the Galactus Engine in Thanos Imperative, etc...
Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Galactus is the third force of the universe between Eternity and Death. It takes a powerful universal cosmic being to take on even a moderately well fed Galactus. That's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay above any skyfather, even Odin. Even if Odin had the Destroyer armour it would make no difference. Galactus 10/10.
Let's make a bet, to anyone on this thread who thinks Galactus walks all over Odin (with the Destroyer armor no less!), if Odin holds his own or wins, change your avatars to something Odin related.
If Odin wins ONLY through a plot device or gets crushed by Galactus (with or without the Destroyer Armor), I'll change my avatar to something Galactus related.
The avatar change has to last 30 days, then you can change back. Deal?
Originally posted by zopzop
Let's make a bet, to anyone on this thread who thinks Galactus walks all over Odin (with the Destroyer armor no less!), if Odin holds his own or wins, change your avatars to something Odin related.If Odin wins ONLY through a plot device or gets crushed by Galactus (with or without the Destroyer Armor), I'll change my avatar to something Galactus related.
The avatar change has to last 30 days, then you can change back. Deal?
I'm not changing my avatar (sorry, I'm too much of a Kate fan), but I will acknowledge if a majority say Odin in the Destroyer though I still think they'll be wrong. A well fed G is above the Celestials (Scathan and Tiamut not whistanding), and you know what they did to the Destroyer.
I don't even think they are going to fight but one thing I do agree with that was said by LOM in this thread. All of those insane "classic" feats that we use to get from these characters, they will never happen again.
That's why using classic feats is a bad idea since the characters have changed ssssooooo much.
Originally posted by carver9
I don't even think they are going to fight but one thing I do agree with that was said by LOM in this thread. All of those insane "classic" feats that we use to get from these characters, they will never happen again.That's why using classic feats is a bad idea since the characters have changed ssssooooo much.
You'd both have a point except that Odin's most impressive feat didn't occur till the mid 90s. The multiverse shaking, dead galaxies (plural) shattering, long dead stars throughout the universe re-igniting, universe threatening fight happened in the 90s not during his "classic" years.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Except it hasn't. The Pantheons have been demoted to below the cosmic beings since Kirby introduced Galactus in 1968. He intended him to surpass the regular gods.
wut? there was no clear superior that early on. not sure where you got that piece of misinformation, but please, show me.
Originally posted by zopzop
You'd both have a point except that Odin's most impressive feat didn't occur till the mid 90s. The multiverse shaking, dead galaxies (plural) shattering, long dead stars throughout the universe re-igniting, universe threatening fight happened in the 90s not during his "classic" years.
90's feats were also like classic feats as well. Recently, things has changed. It rare to finding feats resembling classic feats, especially the type of feats that Odin and Thor had.
Originally posted by leonidas
wut? there was no clear superior that early on. not sure where you got that piece of misinformation, but please, show me.
your disagreeing with it doesn't make it "misinformation"
Lee decided to go for broke and tried to create the ultimate Super Villain. He and Jack Kirby had already introduced good and bad Gods in their Norse and Olympian pantheons. What if there was someone even more powerful than Odin? Someone even Zeus feared?
-Marvel Chronicle, a Year by Year history
they were figures that have never been used before in comics. They were above mythic figures, and of course, they were the first gods.
-Jack Kirby talking about creating Galactus and the Silver Surfer.
Originally posted by HarbingerPage me when Odin:
- One shots three star systems while weakened
- Beats Mephisto in his own realm
- Stalemates Tenebrous while weakened
- Stalemates Agamotto in his own realmBig G wins. [/B]
Page me when Galactus:
- Creates multiple stars from the energy he produces during a battle
- Imprisons a billion billion beings from a thousand different worlds within a single spell
- Stalemates and later defeats a galaxy-sized entity capable of swallowing planets in the palm of his hand
- Produces a son who has beaten Mephisto in his own realm
Originally posted by leonidas
wut? there was no clear superior that early on. not sure where you got that piece of misinformation, but please, show me.
eh, it's been clearly determined that earth's pantheons were scared shitless of celestials, and totally unable to stop them.
Remember the destroyer was constructed using the lifeforce of every skyfather on earth, plus all of the asgardians combined (except Thor). It couldn't kill even one of them.
Full potential galactus is a peer to eternity and death, and most certainly outranks the celestials. Add to that what we've seen what the ultimate nullifier can do (obliterate the entire marvel multiverse in the blink of an eye) and it's not hard to come to the conclusion that Galactus at his peak should be a good deal stronger than any member of earth's pantheons.
edit: one could even argue that way back in Galactus' first appearance, the only thing that stopped galactus consuming the planet WAS the ultimate nullifier. If Odin, Zeus, or any of the earth bound gods were capable of stopping him then either they or the watcher would have stepped in. no one did.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
your disagreeing with it doesn't make it "misinformation"-Marvel Chronicle, a Year by Year history
-Jack Kirby talking about creating Galactus and the Silver Surfer.
cool. i like that first quote and its a good source.
doesn't really change the fact that on panel, early on, there was no clear superior. as time has progressed, galactus and the other cosmics have--seemingly--usurped the place of the skyfathers, but in the late 60's there was still doubt about who was the more powerful between odin and galactus. thor himself was capable of harming galactus back then, never mind odin. guess we'll learn just how far things have progressed shortly when odin finally meets galactus.