Smith vs. Anakin (Lord Vader)

Originally posted by ares834
That's how it works. I don't like using Flash as he can move or can punch numerous times but a beam of light, for example, would be dodgeable by a Jedi.

Flash is able to move at light speeds in some writings and greater than light in at others certain times. But Flash on the average isn't light-speed, he's just super-duper-uber-pooper fast.

So no, a Jedi/Sith would not have the ability to dodge light, they're not that fast/agile. Knowing an attack is coming and having the ability to react fast enough are two different things.

The 3 swordsmen with Mace knew what Palpatine was going to do. He leapt right at them after slowly drawing his saber and threatening them. But they could do all to jack and shit to stop him because he was moving so fast (EU only). Yoda didn't react in time to stop Sidious' FLightning even though, again, Sidious clearly telegrathed the attack beforehand. Jedi are not gods. Just because they see an attack coming it doesn't mean they can stop it.

Originally posted by Robtard
So no, a Jedi/Sith would not have the ability to dodge light, they're not that fast/agile. Knowing an attack is coming and having the ability to react fast enough are two different things.

Jedi don't react what they do is see the future which warns them of what is coming in a set amount of time. As such, they should have the same amount of time to act to a beam of light as they would to a bullet or blaster bolt.

Originally posted by ares834
Jedi don't react what they do is see the future which warns them of what is coming in a set amount of time. As such, they should have the same amount of time to act to a beam of light as they would to a bullet or blaster bolt.

I don't think you realize how fast a beam of light travels, it's literally the speed of light. So no, they're not that fast.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The 3 swordsmen with Mace knew what Palpatine was going to do. He leapt right at them after slowly drawing his saber and threatening them. But they could do all to jack and shit to stop him because he was moving so fast (EU only). Yoda didn't react in time to stop Sidious' FLightning even though, again, Sidious clearly telegrathed the attack beforehand. Jedi are not gods.

That's clearly a case of stupidity. Sidious, no matter how fast he is moving, is not traveling at blaster bolt speeds yet the Jedi can block bolts. Therefore it wasn't due to his speed. So why weren't they able to act to him... Well, to be honest, I really don't know (if we exclude the EU of course).

Just because they see an attack coming it doesn't mean they can stop it.

Sure. As I said they can be overwhelmed due to non-linear attacks and numbers.

I don't think you realize how fast a beam of light travels, it's literally the speed of light. So no, they're not that fast.

Once again, irrelivent. Vader will know where the beam of light will be the same amount of time before hand that a blaster bolt will be. Meaning even though it's traveling at insane speed he will have the same amount of time to act.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Not really. Neo can still smash Smiths glasses. Their clothes can still get dirty. Hell, Neo even got cut at one point, remember?

Neo punched Smith so hard and fast in the face that gravity's effects seemed 'stopped'. Yet, he got up a few moments later and was like, "can't touch this." Smith also made it rain and got dirty by choice. (He had a giant boner for Neo, obviously.)

A regular meat bag would have literally splattered into gooey bits when they smacked; the dirt, mud, re-bar, asphalt, and cement; at such a high speed.

Originally posted by ares834

Once again, irrelivent. Vader will know where the beam of light will be the same amount of time before hand that a blaster bolt will be. Meaning even though it's traveling at insane speed he will have the same amount of time to act.

No, as per Qui-Gon Jin ep1 "allows you to see events right before they happen", or something to that nature. So a Jedi/Sith would sense the beam of light was coming and it'd be there before they could physically react.

Blaster fire is slower than bullets. Light travels at 670,616,629 mph.

Smith rapes.

Originally posted by marwash22
Smith rapes.

Originally posted by Robtard
No, as per Qui-Gon Jin ep1 "allows you to see events right before they happen", or something to that nature. So a Jedi/Sith would sense the beam of light was coming and it'd be there before they could physically react.

Blaster fire is slower than bullets. Light travels at 670,616,629 mph.

Qui-gon says, "He can see things before they happen. That's why he appears to have such quick reflexes. It is a Jedi trait."

What this means is that Jedi will see where the beam of light will be before it is there and, logically, they will have this "vision" the same amount before hand as they would a blaster bolt.

Originally posted by ares834
Qui-gon says, "He can see things before they happen. That's why he appears to have such quick reflexes. It is a Jedi trait."

What this means is that Jedi will see where the beam of light will be before it is there and, logically, they will have this "vision" the same amount before hand as they would a blaster bolt.

AND THE LIGHT WOULD BE TRAVELING SO FAST EVEN JEDI SPEED WOULD BE OVERTAXED TO REACT IN TIME.

Which part of Light-Speed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blaster-Fire aren't you following? <-- probably and understatement

What part of they have the same amount of time to act do to precog aren't you following?

Originally posted by ares834
What part of they have the same amount of time to act do to precog aren't you following?

Seriously, dude? So if you have 1 second to react to something, you could dodge a baseball travelling at 85mph same as a bullet travelling at 900mph, cos you know, "you have the same amount of time"?

The speed of the object matters and factors in.

Originally posted by ares834
That's clearly a case of stupidity. Sidious, no matter how fast he is moving, is not traveling at blaster bolt speeds yet the Jedi can block bolts. Therefore it wasn't due to his speed. So why weren't they able to act to him... Well, to be honest, I really don't know (if we exclude the EU of course).

Sure. As I said they can be overwhelmed due to non-linear attacks and numbers.

Once again, irrelivent. Vader will know where the beam of light will be the same amount of time before hand that a blaster bolt will be. Meaning even though it's traveling at insane speed he will have the same amount of time to act.

You'll need a better excuse than that dude. 😬

The problem with your example is that light travels so fast that fr Vader to have a chance of stopping it the light would need to be hundreds of thousands of miles away when he sense it. Jedi have trouble sensing things in the same city as them, let alone that distance. Furthermore, combatants do not start at that distance from each other. It doen't matter if Vader senses the attack 5 seconds before it comes, because The Flash can close the gap and beat the ever loving shit out of Vader in a nanosecond. Vader would be a statue to him, and utterly defenceless to his onslaught.

Originally posted by Robtard
Seriously, dude? So if you have 1 second to react to something, you could dodge a baseball travelling at 85mph same as a bullet travelling at 900mph, cos you know, "you have the same amount of time"?

Originally posted by ares834
Yes...

LoL. But no. The point is that the bullet will be there before you react. While the much slower baseball could be dodged given its rate of travel.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Neo punched Smith so hard and fast in the face that gravity's effects seemed 'stopped'. Yet, he got up a few moments later and was like, "can't touch this." Smith also made it rain and got dirty by choice. (He had a giant boner for Neo, obviously.)

A regular meat bag would have literally splattered into gooey bits when they smacked; the dirt, mud, re-bar, asphalt, and cement; at such a high speed.

And yet Neo was cut by a sword. That scene exists to show us that, yes, Neo is still human and his control over the Matrix is not absolute. If his body can be cut, his clothes can be burnt at temperatures the likes of which you're talking about. Nottomention that if a sword can cut him, a lightaber can. ✅

Why would he stop bullets if they'd just bounce off of him?

Originally posted by Nephthys
You'll need a better excuse than that dude. 😬

Except it's true. Sidious is not traveling at blaster bolt speeds.

The problem with your example is that light travels so fast that fr Vader to have a chance of stopping it the light would need to be hundreds of thousands of miles away when he sense it. Jedi have trouble sensing things in the same city as them, let alone that distance. Furthermore, combatants do not start at that distance from each other.

Certianly possible.

It doen't matter if Vader senses the attack 5 seconds before it comes, because The Flash can close the gap and beat the ever loving shit out of Vader in a nanosecond. Vader would be a statue to him, and utterly defenceless to his onslaught.

As I said earlier Flash can **** up Vader because he can change his trajectory and doesn't have to move in a linear fashion.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL. But no. The point is that the bullet will be there before you react. While the much slower baseball could be dodged given its rate of travel.

The thing is the time it takes for the ball to reach you will be factored into the one second ahead of time. Precog doesn't warn them about when the guy is going to pull the trigger but when adn where the blast will be a set amount of time before hand.

Except it's true. Sidious is not traveling at blaster bolt speeds.

And yet they were still blitzed.

Certiantly possible.

I.E. Your logic is flawed and you should drop the point.

As I said earlier Flash can **** up Vader because he can change his trajectory and doesn't have to move in a linear fashion.

So why bring it up in this thread? Smith is not a blaster bolt. Nor is any other combatant with super speed.