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You've never even slightly proven that he can use a Force Storm and teleport himself at the same time. The idea of him being able to maintain his control of the phenomenom while travelling through a wormhole is frankly ludicrous.
Why would he be unable to do so with himself if he can do so with others?
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Because he's not going through a fvcking wormhole at the time.
Given that the only instance of Palpatine ever losing control of a Force Storm occurs when three Skywalkers channel an extraordinarily high level of power to separate the Storm from its maker, what proof do you have that traveling through a wormhole would disrupt his control?
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Well I've yet to see him maintain his concentration while travelling through something that makes space-time its ***** and is heavier that the sun, at speeds exceeding the speed of light the same way a star destroyer exceeds a whiffle bat.
I understand where you're coming from, but by that reasoning, anyone who is consumed by the Force Storm should be obliterated.
Spoiler:
Which isn't what happens in the comic book; Palpatine can safely conduct individuals across the space-time continuum when so inclined.
Yeah, because he isn't personally going through it. What I'm saying is that going through it is enough to make it near impossible for him to keep his concentration running. What with being in a space where physics are mere suggestions rather than actual rules.
Its th difference between using Force Lightning and getting Force Lightning used on you. Only times 100.
I understand what you're saying. But if we apply those rules properly, Palpatine or Luke or anyone traveling through the Force Storm should be, by all rights, dead the second they enter the wormhole (giggity).
What you're saying is essentially: Okay, well if won't kill them it'll definitely ruin their concentration.
That seems terribly close to presumption.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't see how your getting that from me at all.In fact it kinda seems like you're dodging the point right now.
What he is saying is, how will safely traveling through a wormhole make him lose concentration?
If he was able to maintain concentration while being in severe pain from having his hand chopped off, how will safely floating through a wormhole make him lose concentration?
Well for a start he's travelling faster than the speed of light through what is basically two black holes linked together, not 'safely floating through'. I'd imagine it would be difficult to maintain a Force Storm several thousand lightyears away from himself without being able to see or sense it, particularly while currently presiding in an area where reality has become so fvcked up that its looped over itself. One wonders whether he'd be able to concentrate on a point in the universe that hes either movng to or away from much, much faster than the speed of light.
Do you think hed be able to fire off Force Storms in Hyperspace?
There's no point dodging on my end. It's just that Palpatine creating Force Storms at whim, safely transporting individuals across the space-time continuum while simultaneously destroying various objects and debris, etc. has basis in canon whereas your concerns do not.
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Well for a start he's travelling faster than the speed of light through what is basically two black holes linked together, not 'safely floating through'.
This has been addressed. Palpatine transported Luke without incident or injury.
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I'd imagine it would be difficult to maintain a Force Storm several thousand lightyears away from himself without being able to see or sense it, particularly while currently presiding in an area where reality has become so fvcked up that its looped over itself.
This has been addressed. Palpatine was able to do so to Luke at Coruscant despite his physical location on Byss.
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One wonders whether he'd be able to concentrate on a point in the universe that hes either movng to or away from much, much faster than the speed of light.
More to the point, where is it said that concentration is necessary to control the Force Storm? The only time he lost control over the Storm is when he was separated from the Force courtesy of Luke, Leia, and Anakin.
There's no point dodging on my end. It's just that Palpatine creating Force Storms at whim, safely transporting individuals across the space-time continuum while simultaneously destroying various objects and debris, etc. has basis in canon whereas your concerns do not.
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Stop bringing that up like it actually matters. I know he can use the frickin technique. That isn't the issue here. Transporting other people /=/ transporting himself.
This has been addressed. Palpatine transported Luke without incident or injury.This has been addressed. Palpatine was able to do so to Luke at Coruscant despite his physical location on Byss.
Again, that doesn't mean shit.
More to the point, where is it said that concentration is necessary to control the Force Storm? The only time he lost control over the Storm is when he was separated from the Force courtesy of Luke, Leia, and Anakin.
Finally adressing the actual point. Well obviously that proves that he needs to maintain to Storm on his end, as when he was unable to do so it destroyed him. If he is unable to do so because he's hurtling through space-time faster than light, then he would logically lose control again.
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If he is unable to do so because he's hurtling through space-time faster than light, then he would logically lose control again.
Me
It's just that Palpatine creating Force Storms at whim, safely transporting individuals across the space-time continuum while simultaneously destroying various objects and debris, etc. has basis in canon whereas your concerns do not.
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Yeah, bullshit. This entire thing is speculation.
More accurately, your argument is drowning in baseless speculation.
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By that logic I can say that since he's lost control of it before then he will again when put in similar circumstances.
Me
The only time he lost control over the Storm is when he was separated from the Force courtesy of Luke, Leia, and Anakin.
Interesting how the circumstances the Emperor faces here are rather not like the circumstances before him during the events of Dark Empire.
You say he never lost control due to that circumstance, I say he never maintained control in that circumstance. Basically:
Originally posted by SlightlyFlaccid
It's just that Palpatine creating Force Storms at whim, safely transporting individuals across the space-time continuum while simultaneously destroying various objects and debris, etc. has basis in canon
OriginallyUnoriginally posted bySlightlyFlaccidMe
Interesting how the circumstances the Emperor faces here are rather not like the circumstances before him during the events of Dark Empire.
Do you see it now?