Star Killer Vs Mace Windu

Started by Jedi_Padawan6666 pages

"Anyway, a the top front line Jedi General of the war will defeat Starkiller imo."

Despite the fact that even the best Jedis in the war didn't display half the power that the Apprentice did?

Originally posted by truejedi
I personally think it's pretty biased to think you can just discount some canonicity simply because you think it doesn't fit. I could say the same about pretty much any powerful feat in the mythos that I don't like. (he doesn't reproduce it later, therefore NON-CANON!) It's pure crap.

This.

Like I was pointing out to Lucian (he agreed, it was against something someone else, earlier, had stated), earlier, we also can't do the same for low-showings.

Star Wars is a massive universe with a continuity thats constantly evolving. Some inconsistencies were bound to happen.

^ Yeah but what he did on Dantooine is more than just a minor inconsistency.. It completely contradicts anything and everything we see in the rest of the SW Universe.

I prefer this as proof of what Mace Windu is capable of with the Force:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2uJaUxquw8&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Especially at 1:05

The way I see it theres 2 ways of looking at the feats in cw mini:

1) Exaggerrated so non-canon or
2) Exaggerated so a One-Off.

I think the Link Ive posted is enough proof of his Force Power without having to refer to CW Mini.

EDIT: Oh and this at 1:20:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu_XLDlDWLQ

Deflecting Sidious's Lightning puts Mace's Force powers within the elite few.

Originally posted by Jedi_Padawan666
Hahahaha your clearly in your 50's. The internets for young people grandma.
Yes, that's it son.

DP, you can "see it" any way you want, but it doesn't change the fact that it's canon, whether you like it or not. And there was nothing in the video you linked us to that really contradicts what happened on Dantooine (in my opinion of course). Leland Chee defended it as canon and to top it off, GL stated that it was canon as well.

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
DP, you can "see it" any way you want, but it doesn't change the fact that it's canon, whether you like it or not. And there was nothing in the video you linked us to that really contradicts what happened on Dantooine (in my opinion of course).

Hey JT I didn't post those links to contradict Cwmini, I posted them as more reliable showings of Mace's Force Powers. Crushing Destroyer Droids is pretty Uber IMO.

If we say the Cwmini feat is canon, thats fine, but it was still just a One-Off. We've seen nothing like that from Mace again. Id personally go by more consistent showings, and not One-Offs (especially where the One-Off was in a cartoon thats been quoted to be Exaggerated by more than one source).

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
Leland Chee defended it as canon and to top it off, GL stated that it was canon as well.

They said the "Feats" were canon? Where?

If I remember right Leeland Chee said feats that contradict what we see in the Films are Not-Canon. Ask True Jedi about that quote (cause he wasn't too happy about it at the time Lol)..

And I know Dave Filoni has said the Cw mini showing of Force Powers were "Exaggerrated. I think Borbarad posted some quotes of that once.

Nothing that Mace does in the Dantooine video contradicts the movies, DP.

Originally posted by Jedi_Padawan666

Despite the fact that even the best Jedis in the war didn't display half the power that the Apprentice did?

Rivi-Anu temporarily lifted a Venator class star destroyer. Not just guide one as it fell, but preventing it from falling and crushing her clone army and Jedi allies.

Originally posted by Q99
Rivi-Anu temporarily lifted a Venator class star destroyer. Not just guide one as it fell, but preventing it from falling and crushing her clone army and Jedi allies.

Please don't feed the troll like I did.

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
Nothing that Mace does in the Dantooine video contradicts the movies, DP.

What about in AOTC? If we go by the Dantooine feat, Mace should have solo'd on Geonsia right?

The fact that he did something at one point then didn't do it again at another, when you think he should have, doesn't qualify as a contradiction. So again, what Mace Windu did on Dantooine doesn't contradict anything else he's done. Inconsistencies of this nature are common in the SW universe but do not necessarily erase a character's abilities.

...Moreover, while the movies are the ultimate level of canon, it should be noted that the CW mini-series episode 13 was presented to and approved by George Lucas AFTER AotC came out. Therefore, it's not a stretch to say that GL thought that the battle of Dantooine was a better indicator of what Mace Windu was capable of at the time than what he had showed in the movie (which came out earlier).

...And, while a little off-topic, I now understand why so many people have left this forum. Common sense (as much as can be found while debating a fictional universe anyway) simply doesn't exist here anymore. I'm really not sure if it ever has. Frustrating.

I think they left becase of boredom actually. Or being banned.

...Or the intolerance to common sense being utilized when discussing certain topics.

No Common Sense on these boards?! Are you kidding me? This is Common sense right here:

Originally posted by Jedi_Padawan666
What proof is there that is mace windu? If he can do force speed and force jump and force destory droid why didnt he do any of that against Palpatine and count Dooku?

"Force destroy droid" 😂

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
No Common Sense on these boards?! Are you kidding me? This is Common sense right here:

I know, right? LMAO!!

Originally posted by Nephthys
I think they left becase of boredom actually.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I think they left becase of boredom actually.
Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
...Or the intolerance to common sense being utilized when discussing certain topics.

Or bacase of really bad speeling.