Originally posted by carver9
Kang didn't knock out Hulk but he did send him flying. Hulk was working Kang though.
Only thing Hulk was working was his own mouth; he didn't even bruise Kang. Even when he broke his shield (you know, the time when Kang's shields didn't send him flying like a kid off of an electric dinosaur-fence) and grabbed Kang, Kang just paused in his conversation like he was having a sip of tea.
Originally posted by Simbon
Only thing Hulk was working was his own mouth; he didn't even bruise Kang. Even when he broke his shield (you know, the time when Kang's shields didn't send him flying like a kid off of an electric dinosaur-fence) and grabbed Kang, Kang just paused in his conversation like he was having a sip of tea.
You missed the point of my post. It wasn't to prove that Hulk was greater than a prepped Kang, it was based on Hulks strength.
Originally posted by carver9
You missed the point of my post. It wasn't to prove that Hulk was greater than a prepped Kang, it was based on Hulks strength.
No, I got the point of your post. I just enjoy trying to infuriate you by belittling the hulk (or more accurately, your overgenerous estimation of him).
Poking fun aside, it's true that Hulk was depicted as a fair amount stronger than Thor (though not "far, far" stronger, as you say), but that doesn't equate to being stronger than animated superman. While on average Hulk seemed stronger, even his Graviton showing didn't seem as impressive to me as Superman's final showdown against Darkseid. So it's a case of averages versus high-end showings. Hard to call, IMO.
Originally posted by Simbon
No, I got the point of your post. I just enjoy trying to infuriate you by belittling the hulk (or more accurately, your overgenerous estimation of him).Poking fun aside, it's true that Hulk was depicted as a fair amount stronger than Thor (though not "far, far" stronger, as you say), but that doesn't equate to being stronger than animated superman. While on average Hulk seemed stronger, even his Graviton showing didn't seem as impressive to me as Superman's final showdown against Darkseid. So it's a case of averages versus high-end showings. Hard to call, IMO.
What was impressive about the Darkseid showing?
What was impressive about the Darkseid showing is the fact that superman punched Darkseid across a city, through multiple skyscrapers, and then was fast enough to come around the other side and hit him earthward while he was still air-borne. This was after Darkseid lifted the giant globe off the top of the daily planet and smashed Superman all the way to the basement. The earlier fight against Darkseid (where Superman only one because he turned DS's own beams against him) was also a very impressive showing for Darkseid. In short, cartoon DS would very easily defeat cartoon Hulk -- though Kang, of course, would be too much for him. 🙂
Also, compare Superman's showings against Doomsday (who is pretty close to Hulk) with his counterpart from the justice lords. A non-holding back superman could lobotomize Hulk.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Darkseid more or less no sold Superman's all out/strongest punch. Prior to his revival, Superman broke his face earlier in a previous fight.
I almost forgot... Ultron beam completely disentigrated Thor... That same blast that dropped Thor, Hulk walked through it and ripped Ultron apart.
How strong was Animated Superman strongest punch?
Originally posted by carver9
I almost forgot... Ultron beam completely disentigrated Thor... That same blast that dropped Thor, Hulk walked through it and ripped Ultron apart.How strong was Animated Superman strongest punch?
It did not disintegrate him; Amora BRFed him at the last moment to spare him from death and try to make him fall for her one last time.
He punched Darkseid through some skyscrapers and caused a shockwave upon impact. If it had been Darkseid prior to his revival or ressurection, he probably would have been dead or KTFO.
Originally posted by Simbon
What was impressive about the Darkseid showing is the fact that superman punched Darkseid across a city, through multiple skyscrapers, and then was fast enough to come around the other side and hit him earthward while he was still air-borne. This was after Darkseid lifted the giant globe off the top of the daily planet and smashed Superman all the way to the basement. The earlier fight against Darkseid (where Superman only one because he turned DS's own beams against him) was also a very impressive showing for Darkseid. In short, cartoon DS would very easily defeat cartoon Hulk -- though Kang, of course, would be too much for him. 🙂Also, compare Superman's showings against Doomsday (who is pretty close to Hulk) with his counterpart from the justice lords. A non-holding back superman could lobotomize Hulk.
Punching across a city isn't anything since again, Hulk punched Abomination into another state and threw something that weighed a couple of thousand tons out of orbit. Hell, the guy fell from the moon all the way to Earth and was ok afterwards.
Doomsday nor Darkseid is as strong as Hulk, get that out of here. Thor lifted an entire city, Hulk is stronger than Thor, no one on JLU have any lifting feats worth mentioning so the only thing you all are doing is second guessing. Is Superman or Doomsday strong, sure, does they have a single feat proving that they are Hulk strong, hell naw.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It did not disintegrate him; Amora BRFed him at the last moment to spare him from death and try to make him fall for her one last time.He punched Darkseid through some skyscrapers and caused a shockwave upon impact. If it had been Darkseid prior to his revival or ressurection, he probably would have been dead or KTFO.
That punching feat is impressive but its not as impressive as you are making it since similar has happened in the Avengers cartoon. Better has happened actually. Thor slapping a beam that wad capable of destroying life on the planet was better imo. You are basing all of this off of one showing... Lol...a showing that was alright at best.
Originally posted by carver9
That punching feat is impressive but its not as impressive as you are making it since similar has happened in the Avengers cartoon. Better has happened actually. Thor slapping a beam that wad capable of destroying life on the planet was better imo. You are basing all of this off of one showing... Lol...a showing that was alright at best.
I'm not trying to push an agenda one way or the other; it's an impressive feat from Superman and Darkseid alike. I take it for what it is. I'm not downplaying either of them. *shrug*
Personally, I feel Avengers would win, anyway.
That's the irony -- I also feel the Avengers should win. It's simply that Carver feels the need to constantly exaggerate the power of the hulk while downplaying everyone else. If some version of the Hulk punched out Galactus it still wouldn't be enough for him -- then he'd start insisting that hulk could take on the living tribunal.
Originally posted by Simbon
That's the irony -- I also feel the Avengers should win. It's simply that Carver feels the need to constantly exaggerate the power of the hulk while downplaying everyone else. If some version of the Hulk punched out Galactus it still wouldn't be enough for him -- then he'd start insisting that hulk could take on the living tribunal.
Lol... You are going a lil beyond what i think about the Hulk. I know who the Hulk can beat and who could beat him. I have never gave Hulk the nod against someone over his tier.
Everything I have said, I have given reasons on why I think what I think and you all can't argue against it because you know I am telling the truth.