Hulk and Rulk vs Hal Jordan and Flash
Debatable whether or not Hulk and Rulk could even work together, but how would they fare against one of DC's best duos?
Two scenarios
1) no holds barred (meaning BFR is on and any environmental objects such as cities, oceans, the sun, etc. are usable)
2) No BFR in a war-world type setting, 200 x 200 arena with a flat floor and no objects
I would personally think in scenario one Hal Jordan gives team 2 the clear advantage, but in 2 it could change.
1) Hal Jordan for the solo win. He easy chucks them into space or into an ocean.
2) Hulk and Rulk win. It's just too small an area. The Hulks will get through the green lantern constucts and it's a ko of Hal at that point. Flash vs the Hulks is a long fight and I can see Flash evading the waves of sound from the sonic claps but it only takes one screw up. How can Flash put down Hulk or Rulk in a tiny space even if he connects with a 100 000 punches?
Originally posted by Kasper Gutmanno.... Also Speedforce protects flash from negative effects of his movements this includes IMP. On forum Flash fights to the best of his abilities this means that he will speedforce barrier break. He is then moving faster than the universes limitation on velocity. AoE attacks are dodged by stepping around them in time or hopping into speedforce dimension to dodge or just stealing the hulks/rulk's kinetic energy rendering their blows useless. Or you know he could just spam IMP's as the way they are explained is just Flash going near lightspeed and delivering a hit. Why this doesn't work for everyone else who can FTL is a mystery but there it is. Also Barry's normal perception is in attoseconds but a Flash's speed is for all intents and purposes infinite when they speedforce barrier break which is faster than insta teleport so he can toss a ridiculous number of punches even if you broke a second into a google and had him punch for only a single unit of that time.
Wasn't the imp used just once? And if used in a small space wouldn't that destroy Flash too?
Flash solos. First scenario, he can just speed force dump both, and the second scenario he has plenty of options for a KO, like stealing ALL of their speed making them statues, or selectively lending/removing speed from vital organs or internals. (For example, the speed force has been used to speed up/slow down even brain impulses resulting in a KO)
If Flash was a killer, he could even simply snatch vital organs, like the brain or heart. But that's not really in character..
Originally posted by Uriel005
no.... Also Speedforce protects flash from negative effects of his movements this includes IMP. On forum Flash fights to the best of his abilities this means that he will speedforce barrier break. He is then moving faster than the universes limitation on velocity. AoE attacks are dodged by stepping around them in time or hopping into speedforce dimension to dodge or just stealing the hulks/rulk's kinetic energy rendering their blows useless. Or you know he could just spam IMP's as the way they are explained is just Flash going near lightspeed and delivering a hit. Why this doesn't work for everyone else who can FTL is a mystery but there it is. Also Barry's normal perception is in attoseconds but a Flash's speed is for all intents and purposes infinite when they speedforce barrier break which is faster than insta teleport so he can toss a ridiculous number of punches even if you broke a second into a google and had him punch for only a single unit of that time.
Flash and hal jordan win this match for sure, but this...this..this....is the biggest load of unhindered hogwash i have ever read on this forum. The sheer absurdity is staggering.
Show me any instance of flash speedforce barrier breaking (what?)thereby surpassing the universal limitation on velocity and thus moving at infinite speed (lool this is so daft im laughing as im typing it) in a battle EVER . Show me flash dodging an attack by "stepping around someone in time" (Giving him new powers now are we?)
Its one thing to bring this nonsense into threads that have CIS off, and even then it is patently absurd since it has no on panel precedent whatsoever, but in a regular forum battle where CIS is on, to bring in these type of fantastical figments of your imagination that you are calling arguments is a nothing short of criminal. 😐
Originally posted by Naija boyhe can run through time... He can also access a dimension only speedsters to this point can access. What stops him from doing so.
Flash and hal jordan win this match for sure, but this...this..this....is the biggest load of unhindered hogwash i have ever read on this forum. The sheer absurdity is staggering.Show me any instance of flash speedforce barrier breaking (what?)thereby surpassing the universal limitation on velocity and thus moving at infinite speed (lool this is so daft im laughing as im typing it) in a battle EVER . Show me flash dodging an attack by "stepping around someone in time" (Giving him new powers now are we?)
Its one thing to bring this nonsense into threads that have CIS off, and even then it is patently absurd since it has no on panel precedent whatsoever, but in a regular forum battle where CIS is on, to bring in these type of fantastical figments of your imagination that you are calling arguments is a nothing short of criminal. 😐
Originally posted by Uriel005
he can run through time... He can also access a dimension only speedsters to this point can access. What stops him from doing so.
He can run through time....yes. He however does not run back and forward in time during battles do dodge attacks nor does he step around attacks in time to dodge them . Even if this was theoretically possible, it is completely unfounded on panel and hence is a nonsensical tactic to bring up period...but especially in a thread with CIS on. That would be unbelievably out of character.
Furthermore, until you can show me an instance of flash breaking the speeforce barrier which clearly resulted in him"surpassing the universal limit on velocity and moving at infinite speed" in battle then that is more fantastical hogwash. Aside the fact that whatever that is, is completely and utterly out of character to say the least, the tactic "speed force barrier breaking" itself is just simply made up in your mind in the first place and has no form of on panel parallel which resulted in anything even remotely similar.
Hence your arguments are, to put it mildly, laughably horrendous. They have no basis in comics whatsoever.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Flash and hal jordan win this match for sure, but this...this..this....is the biggest load of unhindered hogwash i have ever read on this forum. The sheer absurdity is staggering.Show me any instance of flash speedforce barrier breaking (what?)thereby surpassing the universal limitation on velocity and thus moving at infinite speed (lool this is so daft im laughing as im typing it) in a battle EVER . Show me flash dodging an attack by "stepping around someone in time" (Giving him new powers now are we?)
Its one thing to bring this nonsense into threads that have CIS off, and even then it is patently absurd since it has no on panel precedent whatsoever, but in a regular forum battle where CIS is on, to bring in these type of fantastical figments of your imagination that you are calling arguments is a nothing short of criminal. 😐
as evidenced by this post the people that don't know anything about the Flash just can't help putting themselves out there.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff164/WallyWestRespect/palight2.jpg
Flash doesn't move at infinite speeds hes always approaching infinity which means hes going to surpass anyone in speed because unlike them he has no cap.
Also for anyone who wants to assume either of the Hulk's will be able to do anything to the Flash while hes tapped into the speed force.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff164/WallyWestRespect/flamongul16.jpg
Originally posted by SasuOna
as evidenced by this post the people that don't know anything about the Flash just can't help putting themselves out there.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff164/WallyWestRespect/palight2.jpgFlash doesn't move at infinite speeds hes always approaching infinity which means hes going to surpass anyone in speed.
Also for anyone who wants to assume either of the Hulk's will be able to do anything to the Flash while hes tapped into the speed force.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff164/WallyWestRespect/flamongul16.jpg
lol as evidenced by the above poster, people with comprehension impairments cant stop joining KMC. What was that scan supposed to show or prove seriously? Him breaking the universal limit on speed and velocity by speedforce barrier breaking in battle ? lmao. Ive read literally hundreds of flash comics and so i know how fast he is.
I however refuse to be sucked in to the fanboy fantasy of those who would attempt to concoct the most ridiculous of scenarios
without any on panel support....especially when CIS is on. GTFO with that garbage.
Originally posted by HarbingerNo one has proven that he can't and I've posted the on panel explanation for the IMP and nothing there says anything about it not being spammable....
Can we please stop with the "Flash can spam IMPs" argument? Please?
Originally posted by Naija boywrong the entire premise of direct speedforce tap is that Speedsters speed becomes essentially infinite while using it.
lol as evidenced by the above poster, people with comprehension impairments cant stop joining KMC. What was that scan supposed to show or prove seriously? Him breaking the universal limit on speed and velocity by speedforce barrier breaking in battle ? lmao. Ive read literally hundreds of flash comics and so i know how fast he is.I however refuse to be sucked in to the fanboy fantasy of those who would attempt to concoct the most ridiculous of scenarios
without any on panel support....especially when CIS is on. GTFO with that garbage.
Originally posted by Uriel005CIS being on means he won't.
No one has proven that he can't and I've posted the on panel explanation for the IMP and nothing there says anything about it not being spammable.... wrong the entire premise of direct speedforce tap is that Speedsters speed becomes essentially infinite while using it.
