Hulk and Rulk vs Hal Jordan and Flash

Started by Uriel0053 pages

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
KMC Flash solos the multiverse.
I wouldn't go that far...

Originally posted by Harbinger
Can we please stop with the "Flash can spam IMPs" argument? Please?

Why would Wally lie?

It's not like we're talking about a hyperbolic statement like someone saying "The universe will tremble before my power!", it was a simple statement of fact about his capabilities.

He said he could during his fight with a White Martian, and the claimed the only reason he didn't is because one would be enough. And it was.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
KMC Flash solos the multiverse.

Surfer owns him.

Originally posted by cdtm
Why would Wally lie?

It's not like we're talking about a hyperbolic statement like someone saying "The universe will tremble before my power!", it was a simple statement of fact about his capabilities.

He said he could during his fight with a White Martian, and the claimed the only reason he didn't is because one would be enough. And it was.

It has nothing to do with whether or not Wally can do it. It has everything to do with whether or not Wally would given CIS. IMPs aren't a go to move for him; they aren't heat vision, or the Omega Beams, or Thor's lightning strikes. We're talking about a move that's been used once (IIRC). Given that, why is it that in every gotdamn Flash thread, we get the "he'd just IMP and winz yall!!!!" post?

Originally posted by Harbinger
It has nothing to do with whether or not Wally can do it. It has everything to do with whether or not Wally would given CIS. IMPs aren't a go to move for him; they aren't heat vision, or the Omega Beams, or Thor's lightning strikes. We're talking about a move that's been used once (IIRC). Given that, why is it that in every gotdamn Flash thread, we get the "he'd just IMP and winz yall!!!!" post?
because it's one of his major offensive capabilities that lets him deal with high end bricks when it comes down to it. IIRC he's done it several times.

Originally posted by Harbinger
We're talking about a move that's been used once (IIRC). Given that, why is it that in every gotdamn Flash thread, we get the "he'd just IMP and winz yall!!!!" post? [/B]

And now we know why you shouldn't talk about the Flash anymore
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/zumimp4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/lunar_archivist/theflash148-infinitemasspunch001.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff164/WallyWestRespect/flamongul16.jpg

Originally posted by SasuOna
And now we know why you shouldn't talk about the Flash anymore
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/zumimp4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/lunar_archivist/theflash148-infinitemasspunch001.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff164/WallyWestRespect/flamongul16.jpg

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Nice. I read the Mongul one but not the last one.

Originally posted by SasuOna
And now we know why you shouldn't talk about the Flash anymore
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/zumimp4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/lunar_archivist/theflash148-infinitemasspunch001.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff164/WallyWestRespect/flamongul16.jpg
Yea, and those are the only times I recall him using it in his hundreds of appearances, so...

There may be one more, but the move is rare for him to use, there's no reason to try and disprove it, it's a fact.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, and those are the only times I recall him using it in his hundreds of appearances, so...

There may be one more, but the move is rare for him to use, there's no reason to try and disprove it, it's a fact.

But how many times has he fought against bricks?

I'd wager many examples of IMP's are against bricks, and since he's fighting two bricks here it's likely he'll use at least one..

Although, I know of one example where he IMP's a non brick gimmick villain. And somehow, the villain ended up not being a red smear on his glove.. (Ok, and the Zoom example isn't a brick either, which kind of doesn't make sense because he has human level durability..)

Say, this might work:

Spinning him around like a top is how Val Armorr took out PC Superboy.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, and those are the only times I recall him using it in his hundreds of appearances, so...

There may be one more, but the move is rare for him to use, there's no reason to try and disprove it, it's a fact.

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Flash's should destroy the Hulk's really.

The image of him easily handling Mongul says it all.

But then again Full Powered Flash's should be more powerful than Superman.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Flash's should destroy the Hulk's really.

The image of him easily handling Mongul says it all.

But then again Full Powered Flash's should be more powerful than Superman.

I've said it before it's not really the Flash people are trying to beat. It's more trying to beat the power behind the flash/speedster aka speedforce.

Originally posted by Uriel005
[B.. ..wrong the entire premise of direct speedforce tap is that Speedsters speed becomes essentially infinite while using it. [/B]

Post scans of flash breaking the universal limits on velocity in battle......you cant because it is just nonsesnsical extrapolation from your fanboy mind.lulz Hulk has potentially infinite strength, that doesnt mean i argue that he simply sneezes and kills all his opponents with his infinite strength.

You have no form of on panel basis for any of the stuff you argue. You arent bringing Flash's stock up with all ur absurd unsupported claims, you are taking it right down. Of course i dont expect you to listen to reason...or post any form of evidence....those two concepts are completely alien to you.

So carry on with your absurd smear campaign
against the flash. Aside from a few other forum loons who have comprehension deficiencies no one even takes your garbage seriously anyway.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
KMC Flash solos the multiverse.

Bah..dont insult all the members of KMC by putting them on the same level of Uriel whatver his name is.
His flash soloes the multiverse cause he is faster than the multiversal limit of speed.lol

Flash always approaching infinity>set character speed

yeah... read flash rebirth...

Originally posted by Naija boy
Post scans of flash breaking the universal limits on velocity in battle......you cant because it is just nonsesnsical extrapolation from your fanboy mind.lulz Hulk has potentially infinite strength, that doesnt mean i argue that he simply sneezes and kills all his opponents with his infinite strength.

You have no form of on panel basis for any of the stuff you argue. You arent bringing Flash's stock up with all ur absurd unsupported claims, you are taking it right down. Of course i dont expect you to listen to reason...or post any form of evidence....those two concepts are completely alien to you.

So carry on with your absurd smear campaign
against the flash. Aside from a few other forum loons who have comprehension deficiencies no one even takes your garbage seriously anyway.

Specifically Flash rebirth #3 page 17 and on. will post as soon as scanner stops screwing with me.

Originally posted by Uriel005
Specifically Flash rebirth #3 page 17 and on. will post as soon as scanner stops screwing with me.

Dont even bother. I have read flash rebirth and am looking at the very comic you are talking about right now and your nonsensical claims do not at all match up to whats in the comic

- Barry is attempting to run back into the speedforce,
-Superman attempts to stop him and he easily outpaces superman when he gets serious
- He runs so fast that time ruptures around him and he begins to to see flashes of his life,
- Then he succesfuly breaks into the speedforce itself where he sees the reverse flash and other speedsters that are trapped there.

Now the nowhere in that comic did he "break the unviversal limit on speed and velocity". That is still and always will remain the fermented hogwash of ur imagination. He entered the speedforce, as other speedsters have done before him. He even had trouble getting out of the speedforce until Wally came the next issue and "brought him home" thanks to his anchor who was Linda. Him "speedforce barrier breaking" does not at all have the implications u somehow think it does. Infact, as per Flash rebirth, such a strategy would be quite stupid since it could effectively eliminate him from the battle and could leave him trapped in the speedforce dimension.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Dont even bother. I have read flash rebirth and am looking at the very comic you are talking about right now and your nonsensical claims do not at all match up to whats in the comic

- Barry is attempting to run back into the speedforce,
-Superman attempts to stop him and he easily outpaces superman when he gets serious
- He runs so fast that time ruptures around him and he begins to to see flashes of his life,
- Then he succesfuly breaks into the speedforce itself where he sees the reverse flash and other speedsters that are trapped there.

Now the nowhere in that comic did he "break the unviversal limit on speed and velocity". That is still and always will remain the fermented hogwash of ur imagination. He entered the speedforce, as other speedsters have done before him. He even had trouble getting out of the speedforce until Wally came the next issue and "brought him home" thanks to his anchor who was Linda. Him "speedforce barrier breaking" does not at all have the implications u somehow think it does. Infact, as per Flash rebirth, such a strategy would be quite stupid since it could effectively eliminate him from the battle and could leave him trapped in the speedforce dimension.

Still the fastest there is and there exists nothing that has been proven faster than him other than reverse flash which still gets his ass beaten. Speed force grows with every step barry takes and as such so does his power as it is the source of Flash's power. He can spam IMP with the way it is described and with Flash rebirth it seems to me like his entering speedforce is no longer a problem so he can use it to dodge attacks.... so hmmm.... lets think here. He is FASTEST there is. He can deliver ridiculously high end brick shattering punches, steal speed, dodge attacks via running around it in time/dimension that to date the only one not a speedster and has accessed it iirc is Gorflack.

So tell me... what exactly stops a CISless flash using his abilities to the fullest of his potential and prove it.