Originally posted by h1a8
DP Tyrant aint that damn powerful. Come on now. Tryant loses here
Dude he destroyed a FULLY fed Galactus. The very same Galactus that, after eating the world Morg chose for him, said "An excellent choice Morg, I havent' felt this strong in ages". Then he got his ass handed to him by Tyrant.
Tyrant draws power from the biosphere of EVERY PLANET IN THE UNIVERSE and any Orbs of Power he has accumulated and unlike Galactus he never gets "hungry". The Hulks would get destroyed UTTERLY but that's not Tyrant's style. He keeps his foes alive long enough to drain power from them. Then they screwed.
Originally posted by carver9
Tyrant wins but he struggling for this if he fight the Hulks like he fought Glads, Surfer and the crew. He is going to have to come hard in this fight. Wrestling Hulk like he did against Thanos isn't a good tactic either.
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Originally posted by zopzop
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That's a pretty strong click.
@zopzop
Galactus losing to DP Tyrant was PIS...
Galactus defeated FP Tyrant, but loses to the Depowered version...and why??
Because Galactus "forgot" Tyrants powerset; that was pure PIS...
Galactus isnt human or even an organic being to begin with, thus, he lacks neurons and neuron receptors that are subject to misfiring or failing (for one reason of another) to recieve a signal; Galactus should NEVER forget anything as a result...especially since (in the storyline) he had just recently ran into DP Tyrant during the Herald Ordeal.
That event did occur and Galactus got punked, but lets not ignore the teratons of PIS needed to make that event go down as it did...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@zopzopGalactus losing to DP Tyrant was PIS...
Galactus defeated FP Tyrant, but loses to the Depowered version...and why??
Because Galactus "forgot" Tyrants powerset; that was pure PIS...
Galactus isnt human or even an organic being to begin with, thus, he lacks neurons and neuron receptors that are subject to misfiring or failing (for one reason of another) to recieve a signal; Galactus should [b]NEVER
forget anything as a result...especially since (in the storyline) he had just recently ran into DP Tyrant during the Herald Ordeal.That event did occur and Galactus got punked, but lets not ignore the teratons of PIS needed to make that event go down as it did... [/B]
LoM, apparently a LOT had changed since the day Galactus beat and "depowered" Tyrant. If you check his respect thread, even BEFORE the final showdown, DP Tyrant punked Galactus and Galactus was forced to leave without his herald, the very same herald he went out of his way to find. The Surfer couldn't believe it and even commented that it's not in Galactus' nature to appease an enemy.
Secondly, DP Tyrant, draws power from the biosphere of EVERY PLANET IN THE UNIVERSE. He even felt pain as Galactus devoured a planet. Why would Galactus created a being in his image as a "son" and give him that power set? Every time Galactus 'feasted' Tyrant would feel "white hot pain stabbing his chest". That makes ZERO sense unless Tyrant somehow unlocked this ability AFTER Galactus had exiled him in order to make up the power differential between his FP and DP self. Also capturing beings and draining their energy to be used later could not have been something Galactus had originally created him to do. In his respect thread, Thanos unlocks information on Tyrant and the whole draining thing is something he picked up while in exile.
Thirdly, before they fought, Galactus had eaten a specially selected world by Morg, and Galactus claimed that "he hadn't felt this strong/powerful in ages." Also he wanted to face DP Tyrant on his terms on his home turf! This is all on panel.
So could the final showdown have been written better? Yes, I mean look at the horrendous dialogue. But make no mistake, DP Tyrant was>= Galactus.
I have an easy answer for all your points; same writer!
PIS begats PIS; Galactus yeilding to an enemy as the writer had him doing is completely out of character and illogical to do against a version of Tyrant that is weaker than the original...
And Galactus knew that Tyrant fed off of BSE before the battle begun as he, and this is directly stated on panel, "forgot" that Tyrant absorbs it...
Galactus feeding to be at full strength for the encounter with DP Tyrant makes sense, but then the writer adds an enormous amount of PIS to the equation by making Galactus fight Tyant like a complete idiot; Galactus makes terrible attack choice after terrible attack choice...all in the sake of "forgetting" that everything he is doing plays to Tyrants strengths.
And yeah, the final battle featured horrible dialog, but thats not all; it featured far too much PIS for my liking as well...the writer fully intended to make Galactus "job" as he'd been doing the entire storyline; the writer succeeded in this goal.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I have an easy answer for all your points; same writer!
But it wasn't the same writer!
Silver Surfer 82 (the punking of Galactus) :
Editor In Chief - Tome Defalco
Writer - Ron Marz
Silver Surfer 109 (the final showdown)
Editor In Chief - Bob Harras
Writer - Mike Lackey
PIS begats PIS; Galactus yeilding to an enemy as the writer had him doing is completely out of character and illogical to do against a version of Tyrant that is weaker than the original...
You unfairly assume this. You assume he was weaker. Check the scans. Tyrant clearly says he hid for millenia hoarding power till he was strong enough to show his face. DP Tyrant draws power from the biosphere of EVERY PLANET in the universe (stated on panel and this couldn't be something he was created to do as it would defy all common sense) and the Orbs he stores energy he siphons from his victims from. This Orb power source was hinted at something he learned in exile and not an ability he was created with.
Originally posted by carver9
Tyrant wins but he struggling for this if he fight the Hulks like he fought Glads, Surfer and the crew. He is going to have to come hard in this fight. Wrestling Hulk like he did against Thanos isn't a good tactic either.
He was toying with them just like he'd toy with the Hulks. He needed the heroes to power his ship.
What makes you think he could'nt wrestle any Hulk like he did Thanos. Thanos has embarassed Hulk with a pimp slap. Literally.
Originally posted by zopzop
Dude he destroyed a FULLY fed Galactus. The very same Galactus that, after eating the world Morg chose for him, said "An excellent choice Morg, I havent' felt this strong in ages". Then he got his ass handed to him by Tyrant.Tyrant draws power from the biosphere of EVERY PLANET IN THE UNIVERSE and any Orbs of Power he has accumulated and unlike Galactus he never gets "hungry". The Hulks would get destroyed UTTERLY but that's not Tyrant's style. He keeps his foes alive long enough to drain power from them. Then they screwed.
This is DP Tyrant, do you know the difference. Also I don't buy that drawing power from the biosphere of every planet in the universe. That is like saying that Sentry has the power of a million exploding Suns. Maybe Tryant draws 1 billionth of a watt of power from each planet.