Depowered Tyrant vs Hulks

Originally posted by h1a8
This is DP Tyrant, do you know the difference. Also I don't buy that drawing power from the biosphere of every planet in the universe. That is like saying that Sentry has the power of a million exploding Suns. Maybe Tryant draws 1 billionth of a watt of power from each planet.

Why don't you LOOK at the scans before giving your opinion? "DP" Tyrant stated it on panel and when Galactus ate a random planet somewhere in the universe, "DP" Tyrant felt "pain" and stated that was one less world for him to draw power from. This is backed up by his Handbook entry. You have proof two ways on panel AND in handbooks. It's not really debatable at this point unless you just want to ignore facts, but that's your business.

If he was drawing "a billionth of a watt of power from each planet" how would he feel sharp pain if Galactus devoured just one planet out of the billions (trillions?) that exist in the universe? How would he even know if it's such a small percentage? Unless "DP" Tyrant is omniscient. 🙄

Physically, Hulk alone would give Tyrant a good fight h2h.

Originally posted by carver9
Physically, Hulk alone would give Tyrant a good fight h2h.

Like he gave Zeus a good fight? 🙄

Originally posted by zopzop
Like he gave Zeus a good fight? 🙄

Tyrant isn't Zeus.

Originally posted by zopzop
Why don't you LOOK at the scans before giving your opinion? "DP" Tyrant stated it on panel and when Galactus ate a random planet somewhere in the universe, "DP" Tyrant felt "pain" and stated that was one less world for him to draw power from. This is backed up by his Handbook entry. You have proof two ways on panel AND in handbooks. It's not really debatable at this point unless you just want to ignore facts, but that's your business.

If he was drawing "a billionth of a watt of power from each planet" how would he feel sharp pain if Galactus devoured just one planet out of the billions (trillions?) that exist in the universe? How would he even know if it's such a small percentage? Unless "DP" Tyrant is omniscient. 🙄

With that said, it is irrelevant to how much energy Tryant SAID he is getting since he hasn't shown that much energy output. Superman has done feats that require far more energy than he can get from sun light. Hell, a sun dipped Superman performed a feat that took thousands of galaxies of power to achieve. So cares about what is said if it contradicts what IS SHOWN.

Gladiator was a match for Tryant so these Hulks will crush him.

Originally posted by h1a8
Do you know the difference between full powered tyrant and depowered tryant? I don't think you do.

With that said, it is irrelevant to how much energy Tryant SAID he is getting since he hasn't shown that much energy output. Superman has done feats that require far more energy than he can get from sun light. Hell, a sun dipped Superman performed a feat that took thousands of galaxies of power to achieve. So cares about what is said if it contradicts what IS SHOWN.

Gladiator was a match for Tryant so these Hulks will crush him.

Now I know you didn't even bother to LOOK at the damn scans if you believe Gladiator was a match for Tyrant.

And as to the difference between FP and "DP" Tyrant, get back to me when you realize what happened when "DP" Tyrant met Galactus again after returning from exile.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I have an easy answer for all your points; same writer!

PIS begats PIS; Galactus yeilding to an enemy as the writer had him doing is completely out of character and illogical to do against a version of Tyrant that is weaker than the original...

Agreed, that was PIS and made no sense.

So DP Tyrant puts in a better performance against Big G then FP Tyrant does, yet this supposedly "Uber DP Tyrant" also does a lot worse against Thanos than a weakened Galactus does...?

I call shenanigans.

Originally posted by cdtm
Agreed, that was PIS and made no sense.

So DP Tyrant puts in a better performance against Big G then FP Tyrant does, yet this supposedly "Uber DP Tyrant" also does a lot worse against Thanos than a weakened Galactus does...?

I call shenanigans.

Did you at least look at the scans regarding the DP Tyrant/Thanos fight and the DP Tyrant that returned from exile vs FP Tyrant/Galactus fight?

Originally posted by carver9
Physically, Hulk alone would give Tyrant a good fight h2h.

Originally posted by Harbinger
Nah, Tyrant would drop Hulk before Banner became strong enough to be a threat.

Why is that?

Because physically, Tyrant is far superior to one Hulk? Base, Banner alone isn't much of a challenge against someone that high up the food chain.

Originally posted by zopzop
Now I know you didn't even bother to LOOK at the damn scans if you believe Gladiator was a match for Tyrant.

And as to the difference between FP and "DP" Tyrant, get back to me when you realize what happened when "DP" Tyrant met Galactus again after returning from exile.

Gladiator lost because of distraction. He was a match for Tryant as shown when he was matching his blasts. If BRB didn't get thrown into him then Glads wouldn't got cheapshot blasted (which did almost no damage to him but opened him up for a physical blow). So Tryant beat Glads by a cheapshot combo.

If one of Tyrant's blasts fail to cause any serious damage to Surfer and Glads then there is no way he is doing anything to these Hulks for long with their Healing factors. Plus Thanos put up some physical resistance against him (although Thanos had his wrists which is an advantage over someone stronger). These Hulks are stronger than Thanos and should crush Tryant.

Tryant will put up a good fight and probably kill or ko a Hulk or two but he will eventually lose.

Originally posted by h1a8
I saw the scans years ago dude.

Gladiator lost because of distraction. He was a match for Tryant as shown when he was matching his blasts. If BRB didn't get thrown into him then Glads wouldn't got cheapshot blasted (which did almost no damage to him but opened him up for a physical blow). So Tryant beat Glads by a cheapshot combo.

If one of Tyrant's blasts fail to cause any serious damage to Surfer and Glads then there is no way he is doing anything to these Hulks for long with their Healing factors. Plus Thanos put up some physical resistance against him (although Thanos had his wrists which is an advantage over someone stronger). These Hulks are stronger than Thanos and should crush Tryant.

Tryant will put up a good fight and probably kill or ko a Hulk or two but he will eventually lose.

Glads was never a match for Tyrant. Get that outta here.

By the way, Thanos was amped when he face Tyrant and actually stole some of Tyrant power along with having the orb with him. He basically prepped before the fight so using Thanos in your argument didn't aid you since Tyrant was fighting against his own power and the orb.

You must didn't read that part?

tyrant fcks him up

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
No. Put Superman in Tyrants place or Darkseid without OE/OS and the result will be the same (slugfest-engerybeams only, you know?).

I have to disagree here with you bro.

Hulks gets pounded to guacamole.

Yeah, the way Glads got owned really made him look like Tyrants equal.

He survived getting KOed from a single attack, which is impressive considering it's Tyrant, but he never had a chance.

Originally posted by cdtm
Agreed, that was PIS and made no sense.

So DP Tyrant puts in a better performance against Big G then FP Tyrant does, yet this supposedly "Uber DP Tyrant" also does a lot worse against Thanos than a weakened Galactus does...?

I call shenanigans.

Tyrant owned Thanos. What are you talking about? Big G tried to use tech and that's what did him in the second time.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Tyrant owned Thanos. What are you talking about? Big G tried to use tech and that's what did him in the second time.

The Galactus fight was poorly written, everyone admits to that. You can tell by the HORRENDOUS dialogue that something craptacular was going on.

But aside from that -

Regarding Thanos : Thanos had 6 isssues of "prep time" to take on "DP" Tyrant, that's what the ENTIRE Cosmic Powers 1-6 was about. Thanos quest to challenge himself against a powerful opponent but first he had to find his strengths and weaknesses. Thanos went searching for info on Tyrant and came across Terrax who told him the "orbs of power are both his biggest strength and greatest vulnerability should it be used against him." Thanos then gets his hands on an orb and challenges Tyrant. Tyrant by his very nature DOESN'T go in for the kill immediately, just KO because he sees all creatures as a potential power source to draw energy from. Thanos with orb held his own until Tyrant had enough and wanted to kill him, then Thanos tped away.

Regarding his fight vs Surfer and the other high heralds - he STATED on panel he didn't want them dead, that they were kept alive to be drained and to power his vessel. He was draining power both from them and their weapons. Apparently he can even draw power from mystic artifacts because Stormbreaker was there and it was getting drained. Pro tip, how did he lift Stormbreaker and place it into his machine? Did he overpower on of Odin's enchantments?

Regarding his Galactus encounters - Galactus wanted no part of DP Tyrant. Their first meeting after his exile, he claims to have been in hiding till he had gained his power back (so does the term "DP" is meaningless) and now he could reclaim his empire. Galactus took Tyrant by surprise and Tyrant wasn't ready for Galactus, yet it was Tyrant that made Galactus back down, not the other way around.

Before their final showdown. Galactus told Morg to find him a suitable world so that he would be at his best for the Tyrant fight, also Galactus wanted to fight Tyrant on HIS terms on HIS home territory. Galactus claimed he hadn't felt this strong in ages after he devoured that world and went back to his worldship to prepare.

I agree that the final showdown SUCKED. Bad writing and improbable scenarios (Galactus "forgetting" Tyrant's powerset is just one of them).

The scans are in the Tyrant Respect thread so people can view them for themselves.

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Yeah I'm familiar with the story.
I agree with everything except Thanos holding his own. He got what, like maybe 2 licks in? Orb assisted.

Good question about Stormbreaker. Tyrant's the only one there who could've lifted it. Either that or he forced Bill to hook it up.

Youre right about tyrant being depowered. There is no such thing. He would've never took on Big G in a lesser state than he was in their first confrontation. Galactus knows how strong he still is. He had to leave empty handed without Morg. Really Tyrant's only desized.

Final showdown sucked no doubt about it. Even if Big G forgot his powerset, isn't his cosmic awareness supposed to alert him?

Anyway kudos to the recently added scans you put in his respect thread. It'll help everybody to get a better grasp of the story who aren't familiar with it.