Depowered Tyrant vs Hulks

Originally posted by Sundipped
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Yeah I'm familiar with the story.
I agree with everything except Thanos holding his own. He got what, like maybe 2 licks in? Orb assisted.

Good question about Stormbreaker. Tyrant's the only one there who could've lifted it. Either that or he forced Bill to hook it up.

Youre right about tyrant being depowered. There is no such thing. He would've never took on Big G in a lesser state than he was in their first confrontation. Galactus knows how strong he still is. He had to leave empty handed without Morg. Really Tyrant's only desized.

Final showdown sucked no doubt about it. Even if Big G forgot his powerset, isn't his cosmic awareness supposed to alert him?

Anyway kudos to the recently added scans you put in his respect thread. It'll help everybody to get a better grasp of the story who aren't familiar with it.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Thanos did get in a punch without the aid of the orb which floored Tyrant, other than that he prolly got in another 3 hits/blasts which was equal to what Tyrant got in.

Tyrant didn't get floored by a clean punch. It was a orb shot that brought him down to a knee.

It didn't even look like Thano's first blast even hurt him so it evens out to bout 3 apiece. Tyrant's shots look so much more damaging though.
If you count the explosion, that's a extra shot for Tyrant. Or maybe proof of extra durability.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Tyrant didn't get floored by a clean punch. It was a orb shot that brought him down to a knee.

It didn't even look like Thano's first blast even hurt him so it evens out to bout 3 apiece. Tyrant's shots look so much more damaging though.
If you count the explosion, that's a extra shot for Tyrant. Or maybe proof of extra durability.

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nah. It was a pretty good orb right cross.

Originally posted by Sundipped
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nah. It was a pretty good orb right cross.

Have you got the comic or is it on disc? the reason i ask is because i have both, and on the disc that scan is missing for some reason..i can postthe sacn if you wish.

Originally posted by Sundipped
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nah. It was a pretty good orb right cross.

I think Nihilist is referring to this scan :

Is it me or does the Orb switch places in Thanos hands between the punch and the blast? I think the artist merely messed up. He meant to depict the hand Thanos punched Tyrant with to be the one holding the Orb.

Originally posted by zopzop
I think Nihilist is referring to this scan :

Is it me or does the Orb switch places in Thanos hands between the punch and the blast? I think the artist merely messed up. He meant to depict the hand Thanos punched Tyrant with to be the one holding the Orb.

Originally posted by Nihilist
I honestly dont think the artist messed up as you said the orb is in Thanos other hand, if he had messed up imo the orb wouldnt be seen at all.

The only reason I say the artist messed up was, aside from this attack, ALL his other attacks that phased Tyrant were by using the orb, either to blast or use it as a bludgeoning weapon. We saw how desperately Thanos reached for the orb when it was knocked out of his hand.

Now we have this one scan, where he's holding the orb in his left hand while punching with his right hand. Then the VERY next panel, he's holding it in his right hand, the same hand he threw the punch with the VERY last panel!

There is no way to say with 100% certainty either way, but taking everything into consideration, I'd say the artist intended for the orb to be in the hand Thanos threw the punch with.

PS This is the scan you were talking about right Nihilist?

Ok then it was 2 right crosses. One with the orb, one without it. Haven't seen it in a while. Forgot about it.

As far as what hand is holding the orb, it's possible for Thanos to switch hands off panel I guess.

Originally posted by zopzop
[B]The only reason I say the artist messed up was, aside from this attack, ALL his other attacks that phased Tyrant were by using the orb, either to blast or use it as a bludgeoning weapon. We saw how desperately Thanos reached for the orb when it was knocked out of his hand.

Now we have this one scan, where he's holding the orb in his left hand while punching with his right hand. Then the VERY next panel, he's holding it in his right hand, the same hand he threw the punch with the VERY last panel!

There is no way to say with 100% certainty either way, but taking everything into consideration, I'd say the artist intended for the orb to be in the hand Thanos threw the punch with.

PS This is the scan you were talking about right Nihilist?

DP Tyrant will slaughter the Hulks!

I think Onslaught Hulk will seriously do some hurting to Tryant.
My reasoning is that Onslaught did the virtually impossible and pierced Juggernaut like tissue paper. This means that Onslaught has strength beyond anything we seen (Tryant included). Now Onslaught Hulk not only overpowered Onslaught but cracked his chest. This means that Onslaught Hulk was operating at a strength beyond Onslaught, who was operating far beyond Tyrant.

So the Hulks win and Onslaught Hulk is the key.

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There isn't any animated gif ridiculous enough to respond to that post. So we'll just agree to disagree.

Originally posted by h1a8
I think Onslaught Hulk will seriously do some hurting to Tryant.
My reasoning is that Onslaught did the virtually impossible and pierced Juggernaut like tissue paper. This means that Onslaught has strength beyond anything we seen (Tryant included). Now Onslaught Hulk not only overpowered Onslaught but cracked his chest. This means that Onslaught Hulk was operating at a strength beyond Onslaught, who was operating far beyond Tyrant.

So the Hulks win and Onslaught Hulk is the key.

The ONLY reason Hulk was able to do that was because Thor cracked his armor just prior. Furthermore, cracking somebody's armor doesn't mean you overpower their strength or it's some great strength feat on your part if there is no benchmark for how strong the armor was. Also, Onslaught beat Juggs... not because of his strength and overpowering him, but through TP, so I'm guessing you haven't read the story.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The ONLY reason Hulk was able to do that was because Thor cracked his armor just prior. Furthermore, cracking somebody's armor doesn't mean you overpower their strength or it's some great strength feat on your part if there is no benchmark for how strong the armor was. Also, Onslaught beat Juggs... not because of his strength and overpowering him, but through TP, so I'm guessing you haven't read the story.

Everything that you have said is right except " Thor" cracking Onslaught shell. Thor didn't fight the same Onslaught Hulk fought. Thor fought the Onslaught that only had Charles and Magneto powers. Thor end up busting through a weaker version of Onslaught armor snatching Charles out.

Onslaught then receives a amp (and healed up competely from Thor assault before facing Hulk) by absorbing both Nate and Franklin, Thor along with Earths heroes were nothing but ants to him. Onslaught didn't suffer any damage until Hulk showed up and punched through his shields and ripped through his armor. If it wasnt for Hulk, the entire planet would be under Onslaughts control.

You're correct Carver...good job

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're correct Carver...good job

😠 Dont agree with me, I want to debate.

Originally posted by h1a8
I think Onslaught Hulk will seriously do some hurting to Tryant.
My reasoning is that Onslaught did the virtually impossible and pierced Juggernaut like tissue paper. This means that Onslaught has strength beyond anything we seen (Tryant included). Now Onslaught Hulk not only overpowered Onslaught but cracked his chest. This means that Onslaught Hulk was operating at a strength beyond Onslaught, who was operating far beyond Tyrant.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The ONLY reason Hulk was able to do that was because Thor cracked his armor just prior. Furthermore, cracking somebody's armor doesn't mean you overpower their strength or it's some great strength feat on your part if there is no benchmark for how strong the armor was. Also, Onslaught beat Juggs... not because of his strength and overpowering him, but through TP, so I'm guessing you haven't read the story.

Originally posted by King Kandy
strength=durability?

For example, if one can lift 100 tons with their hands with about 5 square inches of contact area then they have the durability to withstand 5 tons per square.

So Juggs may be more durable than most Hulks but not necessarily as strong.

With that said, my reasoning is the following:

It takes astronomical (if not infinite) strength to pierce Juggs. Since Onslaught pierce Juggs then his hands has to have a minimum durability to withstand the pressure of piercing him.