The Amazing Spider-Man

Started by BruceSkywalker31 pages

Originally posted by Mr Parker
If they try and reboot Batman in a couple years like you two are talking about they will fail miserably.For one thing they waited the appropriate time when they did the reboot for Batman Begins.They waited a long time,8 years before they made a new one.Plus the other Batman films were all a disgrace to the comicbook so they had failed up till that point to make a good Batman film.

Well Now thanks to Nolan,we have at LEAST two good Batman films made and it would be extremely tough to topple the excellent combo of Nolan and Bale.Their best bet would be to bring in a different director and actor and keep the series going.

As much as I am a huge fan of Nolan for finally giving Batman fans two excellent batman movies,i am glad he is out after this and leaving because to use Bane who is about the lamest villain in the batman universive-he was lame even in the cartoon show,to use HIM of all villains,that to me shows that he has lost it.

Nolan may not be out though... yeah all the rumors seem to indicate 2-3 years from now will be a brand new batman film.. i don;t like but that is what WB is thinking

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Originally posted by Patient_Leech

It did NOT. Take it back. : (

OK Toby just stop crying! Lol that's all I remember of him being Parker!

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Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
actually I think Batman will rebooted in 2 instead of 3

but the thing is though for Batman, WB/DC will have it very very rough when rebooting Batman..

I personally think a Batman reboot in a couple of years is pretty careless. But I think it will probably still make around the $500mill mark worldwide (maybe less) simply because of the excitement Nolan has brought to Batman. But yeah it will make a lot less than TDK and TDKR.

Thing is Sony has no choice, if they want to hang on to Spiderman they need to keep making movies with no more than a 5 year gap. So when there is a reboot there will only ever be a maximum of 5 years between series.

But for WB to choose to reboot Batman so quickly just seems careless to me.

Do something new. Try a Green Aroow, or heck if you insist on Batman, go for Batman Beyond. But don't just keep rebooting Batman and Superman time and time again!

i agree with you to reboot Batman so fast and so quickly is foolish on WB/DC's part...

Sony, from what I have read the possible sequel to Spiderman will be in 3 years... so yeah I am prolly right if they do indeed reboot this again Garfield completes it, which could make Sony foolish as well..

Originally posted by super pr*xy
saw the movie last night and loved it.. i liked how spidey was battered and bruised, like any novice would.. i expect him to be a better brawler in the coming sequels.. is there any way of not killing gwen? she is so much better than mj.. they should ret-con that sh!t... i liked the web-shooters.. they add a more at-the-edge-of-your-seat drama, like when
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the lizard smashed the shooters on the oscorp tower rooftop.
my first reaction was "he's f*cked if he slips".. in spiderman 2, with the biological shooters, you just know they're gonna kick in in a life or death situation..

also, who is the mystery man during the mid-credits scene? ideas?

i think that will turn out to be Norman Osborn even though its been said he isn;t

I saw the film yesterday and loved it, I thought it was a bit weird that

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spiderman was basically unmasking himself to pretty much everyone. Also I don't get how he was able to dodge bullets at such close range but not the electrical shot that was fired at him from the helicopter, am I suppost to believe that the light from it blinded him making it harder for him to dodge or something? Last I checked a spider sence wasn't affected by lights. The shot that hit him after by a member of the SWAT team was a little more unstandable due to the fact that the electrical shot probably made him maybe a little more slow and sluggish.

Originally posted by steverules_2
I saw the film yesterday and loved it, I thought it was a bit weird that
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spiderman was basically unmasking himself to pretty much everyone. Also I don't get how he was able to dodge bullets at such close range but not the electrical shot that was fired at him from the helicopter, am I suppost to believe that the light from it blinded him making it harder for him to dodge or something? Last I checked a spider sence wasn't affected by lights. The shot that hit him after by a member of the SWAT team was a little more unstandable due to the fact that the electrical shot probably made him maybe a little more slow and sluggish.

Well... He's still a novice in this movie. I'm sure he'll gain better use of his powers and more sense with

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the unmasking
by the sequel.

Although he may not with the second because I read somewhere the reason for the

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constant unmasking is it's difficult to keep the suit on for the actor.

Does anybody have any opinions on the

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The Crane Scene?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Does anybody have any opinions on the
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The Crane Scene?
[/B]

It sucked! Terrible script writing.

Originally posted by super pr*xy
saw the movie last night and loved it.. i liked how spidey was battered and bruised, like any novice would.. i expect him to be a better brawler in the coming sequels.. is there any way of not killing gwen? she is so much better than mj.. they should ret-con that sh!t... i liked the web-shooters.. they add a more at-the-edge-of-your-seat drama, like when
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the lizard smashed the shooters on the oscorp tower rooftop.
my first reaction was "he's f*cked if he slips".. in spiderman 2, with the biological shooters, you just know they're gonna kick in in a life or death situation..

also, who is the mystery man during the mid-credits scene? ideas?

I know.I always hated the bastards for killing off Gwen in the comics.I wanted to see that whore tramp Mary Jane die in the 2002 version.Knew it was too good to be true though and it would never happen.Your right,Gwen is so much better than Mary Jane.Wish there was some way fans could have an impact to get them not to kill her off.

Plus with sony running things,I just dont see them getting mary janes character properly the way she was in the comics.They ALWAYS freaking make her character into gwen stacy EVERYIME.the cartoons,the movies,everytime.never fails.They wont let Webb make the movie the way he wants to make it.Yeah you lose so much drama as that scene with the lizard demostrated,without the shooters.I hope in the next one we get to see him working to improve the webbing formula.

Originally posted by the ninjak
It sucked! Terrible script writing.

that would be an accurate statement if you were talking about the raimi man-spider movies. 😄

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
👆 Yep. That's fact now. The Amazing Spider Man kicked crybaby Tobey's ass!

Don't be that way, you know SM2 is superior in every way, with the exception of possibly the SFX; that's only cos it's 8 years old now.

Originally posted by Robtard
Don't be that way, you know SM2 is superior in every way, with the exception of possibly the SFX; that's only cos it's 8 years old now.

Hey I liked S2! And I don't mind people saying they prefer it to this. But I prefer TASM.

It's not just the SFX. It's the acting, the portrayals, the love story as well.

And I'm not the only one. There's been a few people on these boards, there's people I know who have seen it and there's even been some reviews who say this is the best one.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Does anybody have any opinions on the
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The Crane Scene?
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It was really stupid. I know they wanted to show the city aligning itself behind Spider-Man but it was so cheesy...

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as cheesy as the crane scene was, it was a good take on logic and physics.. the oscorp tower was so high, he couldn't have manage to get there in time to stop the lizard without the cranes.. he was pretty beat.. and as for him getting tasered from the chopper, he was mid-swing and blinded by the light.. there might've been something there he could've done, but dodging a taser on the up-swing with no leverage is pretty hard.. and for the unmasking.. he flat out told gwen, didn't take off his mask, just blatantly revealed that he is spidey.. the boy in the car, who cares.. he's a kid trapped in a burning car hanging from a bridge being held up by a spandex-wrapped teenager.. i know i don't remember sh!t from that far back in my life.. as for captain stacy, he died.. so, there..
Originally posted by ares834
It was really stupid. I know they wanted to show the city aligning itself behind Spider-Man but it was so cheesy...

It was a little cheesy. Still the cheese factor has definitely gone down a hundred fold since the last Spider-Man movie.

Originally posted by super pr*xy
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and as for him getting tasered from the chopper, he was mid-swing and blinded by the light.. there might've been something there he could've done, but dodging a taser on the up-swing with no leverage is pretty hard..
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Plus there's the fact he's still a complete novice in this movie. If the sequels are going to lead upto the Sinister Six as rumored he will surely be much better at evading attacks by then.

I really don't understand why Sony chose to reboot...knowing Spidey's origins, the pace of the movie just dragged on for me. Instead of enjoying it, I found myself constantly distracted by my mind making comparisons to Raimi's version.

I really found it hard to believe that 29 yr old Garfield & 24 yr old Stone were casted as 17 yr old high school students. Sure they had chemistry but they didn't have the innocence of Tobey/Dunst.

**I'M NOT HIDING SPOILERS SO READ AT YOUR RISK**

I also found it lazy story telling that Stacey not only worked for Osscorp but was also the police commissioner's daughter. This connection may work in comics but comes across as "too convenient" in a movie.

As much as I liked Sheen/Fields...the actors who Raimi chose once again had a better chemistry & as important as Uncle Ben's death was to Peter, this reboot played it down. It would be like doing a Batman reboot & not mentioning his parents getting murdered.

Parker ordering his web fluid from Osscorp was ridiculous. I mean no one at Osscorp figured out that a kid was swinging around the neighbourhood using their highly classified invention & still didn't bother cross-checking to see who ordered it?

Those dam sewer-dwelling lizards. Whose stupidity is being questioned here...mine or the director's? Reptiles are cold blooded, they need heat & the sun to survive & yet there's a colony living underground in the cold DARK sewers...WTF?

And yeah....Another sewer battle? Saw that in Spidey 3.

Spidey walking around the highschool corridors with his mask off looking for the Lizzard...really stupid, Parker!

I didn't really grasp Connor's diabolical plan into changing everyone in reptile-people? It seemed pointless & just as unimportant to the plot...like in Batman Begins & that microwave mist-maker.

This reboot gave nothing new to me, the story dragged & when the action finally kicked in...well we've seen all the web slinging already from the past 3 movies.

Give me Raimi/Tobey/Dunst any day.

Originally posted by Mr Parker

The only other three things in the movie I did not care for was when he was startled and jumped to the top of the ceiling on the subway.That was stupid.If they wanted a shot of Pete upside down while as Peter Parker they could have had that done while he was at home.Have something fall off his desk to startle him and make him leap to the celing,something like that.

You did this also with The Hulk in The Avengers...complaining about a dramatic scene & then wishing it was replaced with a more mundane scene that's literally spoon-fed to the audience.

You're forgetting Pete had just got bitten by the radio-active spider & was on the train going home...he had no idea what was happening to him nor any control of his actions. He was clearly laying unconscious on the train seat. Whether he reacted to the drop of water on his forehead as a startled human or a startled creature WAS BEYOND HIS CONTROL...just the sheer instinct to withdraw & asses the situation. Followed by the comic relief fight scene with the train thugs was cool...however you want to replace all this by a bedroom scene of Peter by himself, startled by the wind...

Loved it. This is the best adaptation of Spiderman so far. The crane scene was original. How else was he going to get to Oscorp? Nick Fury shows up with a flying car to offer assistance? Or should they have had him web a news chopper that was heading towards Oscorp? That would've been too cliche.

Garfield was Peter Parker, unlike Macguire who was just an awkward actor failing to portray his character. And yes, I prefer Emma Stone/Gwen Stacey over Dunst/MJ. I would put the Lizard on par with Doc Ock if not over him. Great villain they pulled off really well. The web shooters was a pleasant and much needed addition. The origin story is longer but needed for the foundation of this new trilogy. I prefer this over the Wrestling origin in Rami's film. I know the wrestling was his true origin but Rami's dragged on and was quite boring.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn

I didn't really grasp Connor's diabolical plan into changing everyone in reptile-people? It seemed pointless & just as unimportant to the plot...like in Batman Begins & that microwave mist-maker.

Connors explained it while talking to himself/alter lizard-ego, he wanted the rest of humanity to be "evolved" like he was. It was reminiscent of SM2 with Doc Ock speaking to the AI in his harness and yet another mild rip-off of the Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde good vs evil inner struggle.

BB, that was to spread the Scarecrow toxin and bring Gotham crashing down, as per the LoS verdict.

Originally posted by Robtard
Connors explained it while talking to himself/alter lizard-ego, he wanted the rest of humanity to be "evolved" like he was. It was reminiscent of SM2 with Doc Ock speaking to the AI in his harness and yet another mild rip-off of the Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde good vs evil inner struggle.

BB, that was to spread the Scarecrow toxin and bring Gotham crashing down, as per the LoS verdict.

Yeah I couldn't hear Connors' voice-over with a theatre of noisy kids...so I clearly missed his motive.

As for Batman Begins, I knew the microwave was to spread the toxin. I just thought they should've just left it to poisoning the water supply rather than making it more convoluted by introducing stolen Wayne technology mid-story.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn

As for Batman Begins, I knew the microwave was to spread the toxin. I just thought they should've just left it to poisoning the water supply rather than making it more convoluted by introducing stolen Wayne technology mid-story.

How does it having "Stolen Wayne Techonolgy" make it more convoluted??

in no way does it feel convoluted.

I watch The Amazing Spider Man with our friends on my b'day .
We all really enjoyed that moment.THis movie good but not batter as compare other spider man series.Andrew Garfield done great job in this movie.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I really don't understand why Sony chose to reboot...knowing Spidey's origins, the pace of the movie just dragged on for me. Instead of enjoying it, I found myself constantly distracted by my mind making comparisons to Raimi's version.

I personally think it was the best call. After Spiderman 3 I was frankly fed up of Toby Mcguire's portrayal of the character and Sam Ramai proved he had clearly lost it with that one.

I think it was best to get a new cast/director for a new decade and go back to the comics for the source material.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I really found it hard to believe that 29 yr old Garfield & 24 yr old Stone were casted as 17 yr old high school students. Sure they had chemistry but they didn't have the innocence of Tobey/Dunst.

I don't think many people will agree with you here. Almost everyone agrees the cast and the love story were substantially better in this one.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I also found it lazy story telling that Stacey not only worked for Osscorp but was also the police commissioner's daughter. This connection may work in comics but comes across as "too convenient" in a movie.

More convenient than the Green Goblin being the father of Spiderman's best friend?? The Original trilogy was filled with conveniences. (Yes some of those connections were also in the comics, but like you said too convenient for a movie).

I still can't get over how Green Goblin got his powers at the same time as Spiderman from a completely different and random source.

The Plot and Origins came together in a much more believable fashion in this movie Imo.

They seemed to have actually thought about it this time instead of just saying "Yeah we'll have Spiderman getting his powers in a random school trip, whilst simultaneously have Green Goblin born in a completely unrelated and random military experiment gone wrong"?? Oh and coincidentally this will be Spiderman's best friend's father..???

This line of thinking on the writers part eventually lead to the abysmal Spiderman 3 where random villains were just popping up out of nowhere/anywhere. But all of them completely coincidentally being related to Parker somehow.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Parker ordering his web fluid from Osscorp was ridiculous. I mean no one at Osscorp figured out that a kid was swinging around the neighbourhood using their highly classified invention & still didn't bother cross-checking to see who ordered it?

I'm sure he was smart enough to cover his tracks. Probably ordered from a bogus name and address. That's assuming he didn't just steal it.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I didn't really grasp Connor's diabolical plan into changing everyone in reptile-people? It seemed pointless & just as unimportant to the plot...like in Batman Begins & that microwave mist-maker.

I'm just glad we finally got a more meaningful villain's plot than "Let's kidnap MJ!!"