Tragic.
It's one of those times where you don't want to focus on the fact that the media immediately jumped to assume it was a Muslim because damn near 100 people died (on a per capita basis, that's double the amount of people who lost their lives on 9/11), but at the same time, you feel remiss if you don't because the media immediately jumped to assume it was a Muslim. Evil takes on more forms than brown with a turban.
Originally posted by Harbinger
Tragic.It's one of those times where you don't want to focus on the fact that the media immediately jumped to assume it was a Muslim because damn near 100 people died (on a per capita basis, that's double the amount of people who lost their lives on 9/11), but at the same time, you feel remiss if you don't because the media immediately jumped to assume it was a Muslim. Evil takes on more forms than brown with a turban.
Well, you really can't blame them. Not only does Norway have a Muslim minority, the white-boy who carried it out emulated the style/M.O. of his declared enemies. People who are saying that "Its wrong to assume he's an Arab" (and there's no shortage of them) are just being PC. Use your noodle; if that guy had left no witnesses and had gotten away scott-free, Interpol would be looking for an Arab.
Japan and South Korea, both of whom are rich and prosperous nations, heavily scrutinize anyone who wants to emmigrate to their countries. If someone isn't to their liking, then they get the boot. They're also not afraid to hurl racist/xenophobic terms outsiders, like gaijin or huin dwaeji. If European countries did the same, they wouldn't have the Muslim problem that they do now. Instead, they open their doors and let all kinds of riff-raff in, and then allow them to do whatever they please with no repercussions, because they're afriad to be called "racist".
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Well, you really can't blame them. Not only does Norway have a Muslim minority, the white-boy who carried it out emulated the style/M.O. of his declared enemies. People who are saying that "Its wrong to assume he's an Arab" (and there's no shortage of them) are just being PC. Use your noodle; if that guy had left no witnesses and had gotten away scott-free, Interpol would be looking for an Arab.
When I first saw the headlines, I did suspect that it was a muslim group. But once I found out the truth, I just abandoned the old view, not go on trying to insist I was somehow correct.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Why did you initially suspect that it was a Muslim group?
Bombing government buildings certainly suggests a Muslim group since a bunch of them have done that.
A mass shooting is the first clue that it's not. There simply haven't been enough mass shootings by Muslim terrorists for me to have them immedeately jump to mind.
The fact that both targets were associated with the same political party is the final nail in the coffin of it being a Muslim group. Those groups seem to hate the West indiscriminately.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Why did you initially suspect that it was a Muslim group?
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
...ever since Fort Hood, shootings are on the menu.
My thoughts exactly. When Fort Hood happened, I recall how all the news anchors were hesitant to say his name, and kept downplaying the fact that he was Arab/Muslim. (As if him being a Muslim was somehow a "co-incidence" and not the direct cause of his actions.) With that guy, there were all kinds of redflags, but nobody did or said anything because they were afraid of being labeled a racist, as opposed to simply using common sense and reporting the obvious. As a former US soldier myself, I'm ashamed of his co-workers and fellow officers for neglecting to report his ass.
As for this Norway shooter, if he was a Muslim, we all know that the media would be doing their damndest to avoid mentioning it. They'd just sweep it under the rug as though it were an entirely unrelated trivial fact.
Originally posted by Quiero MotaYou've got to be kidding.
As for this Norway shooter, if he was a Muslim, we all know that the media would be doing their damndest to avoid mentioning it. They'd just sweep it under the rug as though it were an entirely unrelated trivial fact.
So that's why the NY Times, WaPo, and several other media outlets were already entertaining the idea that the shooter was Muslim before the facts came out, right?
If anything, they've backed off now that it's been revealed that the guy was Norwegian because they have no idea how to treat the case now. Hence the backing off of referring to him as a terrorist. Lulz at "They'd be running away from the fact that he was a Muslim, even though they sure as hell didn't have any problems with assuming he was a Muslim in the first place." Brilliant.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
As for this Norway shooter, if he was a Muslim, we all know that the media would be doing their damndest to avoid mentioning it. They'd just sweep it under the rug as though it were an entirely unrelated trivial fact.
Except that they never do that. In fact this who discussion about how you're both incredibly stupid and a racist started because the media was so incredibly eager to report that the shooter was Muslim.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Easy: he's a right-wing White Nationalist.And he's willing to kill his own kind just to make a point.
His own kind?
All the victims were members of the Labor party, most of them were children.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
As for this Norway shooter, if he was a Muslim, we all know that the media would be doing their damndest to avoid mentioning it. They'd just sweep it under the rug as though it were an entirely unrelated trivial fact.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Are you kidding? They mentioned it when it wasn't even true. So how are they sweeping the crimes of muslims under the rug, when they even attribute christian crimes to islam?
It happened with Fort Hood. He even shouted Allahu Ackbar during the rampage. Despite that they were still hesitant to refer to it as a Muslim attack.
But this time, they jumped the gun (can't say I blame them), but turned out to be incorrect.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
It happened with Fort Hood. He even shouted Allahu Ackbar during the rampage. Despite that they were still hesitant to refer to it as a Muslim attack.But this time, they jumped the gun (can't say I blame them), but turned out to be incorrect.