Mace Windu, Dooku, & Qui-Gon vs Darth Maul, Yoda, & Obi-Wan

Started by Nephthys3 pages

Yeah, Yoda's thick like that.

It's a matter of who matches up with who...

Yoda would definitely engage Windu, because neither Maul nor Kenobi know they would not stand a chance. Yoda himself would probably say, "Too powerful, Windu is, for both of you. Fight him, I will."

It effectively becomes:

Dooku & Jinn vs. Maul & Kenobi

I see Maul going after Jinn because he is a Jedi, and the weak link. I see Maul killing Jinn before Dooku defeats Kenobi.

Then Maul would either help Yoda or Kenobi.

Originally posted by Korto Vos
It's a matter of who matches up with who...

True.

Originally posted by Korto Vos
Yoda would definitely engage Windu, because neither Maul nor Kenobi know they would not stand a chance. Yoda himself would probably say, "Too powerful, Windu is, for both of you. Fight him, I will.

Dooku would also beat either Maul or Kenobi.

Originally posted by Korto Vos
It effectively becomes:

Dooku & Jinn vs. Maul & Kenobi

I see Maul going after Jinn because he is a Jedi, and the weak link. I see Maul killing Jinn before Dooku defeats Kenobi.

Then Maul would either help Yoda or Kenobi.

Probable. However, if you switch Mace for Dooku: Maul and Kenobi are doomed. Mace would crush Maul while Jinn and Kenobi fight to a standstill.

Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
True.

Dooku would also beat either Maul or Kenobi.

Probable. However, if you switch Mace for Dooku: Maul and Kenobi are doomed. Mace would crush Maul while Jinn and Kenobi fight to a standstill.

Well since Windu > Dooku, Yoda would choose to fight Mace. That's my assumption.

If I switched Dooku for Windu, then the only hope I see for Team 2 is if Kenobi fights Mace and draws out the battle as long as possible for Maul to kill Jinn. And then those two better hope Yoda is done with Dooku.

However, if the two are killed, and Yoda hasn't killed Dooku, then Dooku and Windu overwhelm Yoda. Otherwise, if Yoda finishes at the same time as Windu is finishing up, then Team 2 still wins because Yoda > Mace.

I'm trying to figure out how a Windu/Maul duel would go.

Obviously Windu would win. However, I wonder how the superconducting loop of Vaapad would enter the equation.

The loop would allow him to reflect Maul's darkness back onto the Sith Lord. However, it does not add Maul's power onto his own as we see in his duel with Palpatine. Rather it merely makes him his equal. So I wonder how it would work against Maul an inferior opponent.

Originally posted by Korto Vos
Well since Windu > Dooku, Yoda would choose to fight Mace. That's my assumption.

Vs Yoda, I view Windu and Dooku as having a equal shot. Mace > Dooku, sure, but that's because Dooku is dark.

I don't see Jinn and Kenobi fighting to a standstill.

Originally posted by truejedi
I don't see Jinn and Kenobi fighting to a standstill.

Based off their intimate combat knowledge of eachother and Kenobi's defensive form. It would be a long fight with nobody gaining any ground for a while I think, atleast it will be long compared to Maul v Windu.

Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
Based off their intimate combat knowledge of eachother and Kenobi's defensive form. It would be a long fight with nobody gaining any ground for a while I think, atleast it will be long compared to Maul v Windu.

If Kenobi was fighting Jinn, I don't see it being a "long fight."

Kenobi was disarming Grievous fairly quickly in ROTS. Sure Jinn fights differently, but I see Kenobi disarming and defeating Qui-Gon in a short amount of time.

And the intimate combat knowledge part would only benefit Kenobi, since Jinn wouldn't know that Obi-Wan has become a Soresu master.

Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
Based off their intimate combat knowledge of eachother and Kenobi's defensive form. It would be a long fight with nobody gaining any ground for a while I think, atleast it will be long compared to Maul v Windu.
RotS Kenobi has 13 years of experience and training that Qui-Gon is not familiar with. Within 3 short years, Obi-Wan went from a relative newbie in Soresu, to a defensive prodigy. Something Qui-Gon never witnessed or came to be familiar with.

Conversely, Kenobi is still familiar with Qui-Gon, so... defensive prodigy+familiarity=>>Qui-Gon.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Conversely, Kenobi is still familiar with Qui-Gon, so... defensive prodigy+familiarity=>>Qui-Gon.

You think Obi Wan would win faster than Windu?

Originally posted by Korto Vos
I see Kenobi disarming and defeating Qui-Gon in a short amount of time.

Faster than Mace > Maul? I said relatively long, in comparison.

Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
You think Obi Wan would win faster than Windu?
Of course not. Obi's defensive nature means he'll draw their duel out until a killing stroke presents itself. mace would go right for the overwhelming tactic.

Agreed. There's no doubt that windu would finish maul before obi wan could beat qui gon

if mace could overwhelm Maul in seconds, as you seem to think...

Originally posted by truejedi
if mace could overwhelm Maul in seconds, as you seem to think...

if mace can overwhelm maul before obi wan overwhelms qui gon, as i seem to think...

If Jimmy can fool Tommy in to giving him his allowance, as Tony seems to think...

Well in that case, I feel that Yoda would beat Qui-Gon much faster than Windu beating Maul.