Lord Marvel vs. Onslaught

Started by Stoic5 pages

Originally posted by Nihilist
*sigh* the Beyonder wasnt incomplete at all, only her body was vulnerable not her power and her mad
ness had almost passed when Thanos faced her plus he first blast was a cheap shot.

😂Thanos didnt have any shields up when he tanked the gas gaint blast, all the blast did was torch his rags he had on, and the planet destroying blast was straight after the Magus had just beat on Thanos,again no shields used.. seriously try reading something for a change before making stupid comments please.

Yet he took Thors blows with a smile. So being smart and fighting clever is a downfall now 😂. Simple fact you win a encounter the easiest way possible, unless youre a 1 dimensional moron that is.

Every time you mentioned a feat regarding Thanos.

You seem to ingnore the fact Onslaught has nothing in the way of tanking any other hits, as youve just said about Thanos using a shield, why did Onlsaught need/use one when facing others.

And i give Marvell the win due to the complete ease he pwnd Surfer/Nova together and killed Magus in 1 shot.

The Magus has always operated on variable levels due to the prayers that fed him.

Thanos fought a Thor that did not have control of the PG, any sensible person that has read, or knows how the Gems work will tell you, that a raving lunatic that has never used the Gem before would have a very hard time using it. In essence he fought Thor that was not holding back, and did not employ warriors madness... yep just plain old pissed Thor.

Lord Mar-Vell's feats make Thanos look good indirectly, so I understand why you rep on him so hard. Back about a year ago, you were under the impression that he was above Sky Father, which most posters knew was BS. Truthfully speaking, you have no idea how powerful the Magus was when he was eradicated by Mar-Vell... right?

Didn't Odin fart in the Surfers general direction and cause him and Drax to lose consciousness? Onslaught tamed the Phoenix, who happens to be leagues above the Surfer in terms of sheer power.

So going by Onslaughts phoenix feat vs Mar-Vell's Nova, and Surfer crusher feat, I still think that the Phoenix feat is the greater of the two.

Originally posted by Stoic
Quantify the amount of power that led to the Hulk breaching that psionic armor please. For all we know the blow that tore the armor open may have been able to blow Thanos into little bite sized chunks. No offense intended, but the Hulk can bring it, if the situation arises that he needs to.
Thanos has survived attacks from Tyrant, Odin, and Galactus. Hulk's an elite top tier he hasn't been shown the power near Thanos level.

Originally posted by Stoic
[B]The Magus has always operated on variable levels due to the prayers that fed him.

Thanos fought a Thor that did not have control of the PG, any sensible person that has read, or knows how the Gems work will tell you, that a raving lunatic that has never used the Gem before would have a very hard time using it.

This just goes to show what i mean about you, your saying Thor didnt have control of the gem due to his stated, yet you tied to claim a raving morornic Champion who thought the gem didnt work was more of a threat(because Thanos mentioned Hulk not doubt)
In essence he fought Thor that was not holding back, and did not employ warriors madness... yep just plain old pissed Thor.

So this a plain old pissed Thor who beat all the opponent he did then?
And again you simply ignore the fact he handled them all far easier with the gem then with out it. Thanos also stated when he captured Thor that he was using the gem (Thanos used his tech to scan him)
Lord Mar-Vell's feats make Thanos look good indirectly, so I understand why you rep on him so hard.
Like youre doing with Hulk via Onlsaught, fact is you went down this avenue to start with using others feats to back up said character.
Back about a year ago, you were under the impression that he was above Sky Father, which most posters knew was BS.
Bullshit i never once said Marvell was skyfather lvl, so either show where i said that or stfu making up more lies.
Truthfully speaking, you have no idea how powerful the Magus was when he was eradicated by Mar-Vell... right?
Wrong Magus was powerfull enough to overcome the power of a cosmic cube and trick everybody into thinking he was dead plus he owned the entire GOTG with ease.

Didn't Odin fart in the Surfers general direction and cause him and Drax to lose consciousness? Onslaught tamed the Phoenix, who happens to be leagues above the Surfer in terms of sheer power.
Onslaught owning the Pheonix was an illusion, this was proven the other day in another thread, plus it wasnt the full power of the Pheonix

So going by Onslaughts phoenix feat vs Mar-Vell's Nova, and Surfer crusher feat, I still think that the Phoenix feat is the greater of the two.
Seeing as Onlaughts Pheonix isnt a actual feat i dont see how.

Originally posted by Stoic
So going by Onslaughts phoenix feat vs Mar-Vell's Nova, and Surfer crusher feat, I still think that the Phoenix feat is the greater of the two.

Not to nitpick Stoic, but Onslaught's Phoenix feat is IMHO not as impressive as Lord Mar-vell's high herald crushing feat.

I mean Xorn almost killed the entire Phoenix Force! So Onslaught beating it isn't as impressive as it sounds (assuming it wasn't an illusion or something).

@ Nihilist, exactly what don't you understand about variable levels of power, when speaking of Magus?

Thanos said that Thor was increasing in power, and was beginning to tap into the gems power.

The Champion has been using the Power Gem for centuries, Thor never used it before, and was in a crazed state of mind.

It took weeks for a calm Titania to be taught how to use the Power Gem under the tutelage of the Champion. Which is why I'm not buying the bullshyt.

My point from the beginning is that you really can't say for certain how powerful Mar-Vell was. Killing a Magus that at the time of his death could have been Warlock level isn't really that impressive. MAGUS OPERATES ON VARIABLE LEVELS, AND ALWAYS HAS.

I'm not going to attempt to take Mar-Vells Nova and Surfer beating feat, and step on it, but Onslaught in my opinion has better ones. The fact that the Surfer, and Nova together wouldn't be able to even scratch the Juggernaut impresses me more, not to mention Onslaught tooling all of the Supers that he did in his run.

You run with yours and I'll run with mines.

Originally posted by Stoic
[B]@ Nihilist, exactly what don't you understand about variable levels of power, when speaking of Magus?
T here was no varing of Magus power at all, he over power a cosmic cubes effect, pwnd GOTG with ease and destroyed the planets, this is the exact same guy that bowed before Marvell and was killed by him.

Thanos said that Thor was increasing in power, and was beginning to tap into the gems power.
No, Thanos stated Thor was already tapping into the gem and would soon be unstoppable.

The Champion has been using the Power Gem for centuries, Thor never used it before, and was in a crazed state of mind.
And Champ thought the gem DID NOT WORK and was a raving moron to boot.

It took weeks for a calm Titania to be taught how to use the Power Gem under the tutelage of the Champion. Which is why I'm not buying the bullshyt.
Who'd of thought you not buying a feat that you cant argue with.

My point from the beginning is that you really can't say for certain how powerful Mar-Vell was. Killing a Magus that at the time of his death could have been Warlock level isn't really that impressive. MAGUS OPERATES ON VARIABLE LEVELS, AND ALWAYS HAS.
Warlock has never shwon the power Magus showed when he faced the cosmic cube, again your using previous incarnations of Magus, when this Magus was showm at a constant power lvl.

I'm not going to attempt to take Mar-Vells Nova and Surfer beating feat, and step on it, but Onslaught in my opinion has better ones. The fact that the Surfer, and Nova together wouldn't be able to even scratch the Juggernaut impresses me more, not to mention Onslaught tooling all of the Supers that he did in his run.
Surfer and Nova together would ass rape Juggs, and using one of the biggest pis feats in history(Onslaught/Juggs) is pure fail.

Onslaught with ease. Why is this thread 5 pages long?

Originally posted by h1a8
Onslaught with ease. Why is this thread 5 pages long?
Based on ? Please take it easy on me though I am new.