Darth Caedus vs. Exar Kun

Originally posted by Korto Vos
Yeah, he basically says in his world, the story ends with ROTJ. Therefore, Sidious doesn't come back and Luke isn't supposed to get married and everything else that happens after the Battle of Endor doesn't exist.

But if he doesn't give a shit, he shouldn't be coming in and having the authors kill off Anakin Solo, even though he was a main character and far more developed than Jacen (who was supposed to die) at the time.

And him and his company shouldn't have forced Obsidian to finish KOTOR II in a hurry when there was a lot of cut content and extra development necessary that would have definitely made the game a lot better than KOTOR (it ended up being a little worse than the original).

If all he cares about are his movies, he shouldn't be interfering randomly with the EU and causing continuity conflicts and such.

GL's too busy burning bushels of hundreds in his gilded fireplace. He has explicitly stated that he doesn't follow the EU and doesn't care so long as they don't use names that he has in a certain book.

Post-OT books are, as a general rule, horrible in execution. Splinter of the Mind's Eye is a shining example of why EU should not have existed without some singular driving force of consistency. Some of the Zahn books are okay, but when it gets past Jedi academy, I just want to puke. The Vong in particular trouble me.

Clone Wars novels are better. Still inconsistent in some ways, but better written and adhere more to source material. Comics are all over the place. They create a rich history, but stylistically they look like poop and some of the ancient abilities paved the way for Force overpowerment along with DE.

It's a tie in the poll atm (6-6). However, it seems like most people think Exar will win easily (thanks to his amulets) or Caedus will just outlast Kun.

Based on that, I suppose Exar >/= than Caedus according to poll results.

Well, i just voted... I"m thinking Caedus wins easily.

Why?

If you can fight Luke Skywalker on equal terms, you must be pretty powerful.

Also, can Caedus use tutanimis/Force absorption to block the amulet blasts?

He didn't fight him on equal terms. He fought him by running away and using trickery to do anything and still got the shit beaten out of him. Seriously, they exchanged like 3 blows maximum in combat. The others were Caedus attacking him from behind and throwing stuff at him. On equal ground Luke pinned Jacen to his chair without even moving or even looking at him. Hell, was he even in the same room?

Caedus did cross blades with Luke without losing a limb though, but you are right about the desperate nature of the encounter. I just see Kun being a one-trick pony with the amulet. It doesn't speak to KUn's combat ability, it's like pitting Child Anakin with a death star against Caedus on a planet. I dont' see any evidence that Kun has any actual lightsaber abilities, and in a duel, as we type about them, they will generally have to cross blades.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He didn't fight him on equal terms. He fought him by running away and using trickery to do anything and still got the shit beaten out of him. Seriously, they exchanged like 3 blows maximum in combat. The others were Caedus attacking him from behind and throwing stuff at him. On equal ground Luke pinned Jacen to his chair without even moving or even looking at him. Hell, was he even in the same room?

Yeah, you're right. "Equal terms" wasn't the best description of the duel.

Caedus did cross blades with Luke without losing a limb though, but you are right about the desperate nature of the encounter. I just see Kun being a one-trick pony with the amulet. It doesn't speak to KUn's combat ability, it's like pitting Child Anakin with a death star against Caedus on a planet. I dont' see any evidence that Kun has any actual lightsaber abilities, and in a duel, as we type about them, they will generally have to cross blades.

Kun was quite formidable with the lightsaber. He was probably the best duelist of his time, likely better than Qel-Droma too.

well, i hate to be like this, but how good was Qel-Droma?

Originally posted by truejedi
well, i hate to be like this, but how good was Qel-Droma?

Stripped and blind to the Force, he went toe to toe with an enraged Jedi Knight and firmly held his own.

which Jedi Knight?

Originally posted by truejedi
which Jedi Knight?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sylvar

yeah, i'm not seeing anything too impressive there...

Originally posted by truejedi
yeah, i'm not seeing anything too impressive there...

He held his own while completely blind to the Force. He was basically just a normal person at that point. Given all of the inherent abilities Jedi get just by being able to touch the Force, that's impressive. Ulic held is own on sheer skill alone.

but i didn't see anything out of his opponent to say that he SHOULD have had trouble holding his own.

She was one of the legendary Jedi of the Great War and once got a clean hit on Exar Kun. And as Lucius said, any Jedi should be able to beat any non-jedi in a sword-fight given their numerous advantages. That Ulic held his own against an enraged Jedi Master while not connected to the Force means that he would have to have been fantastically skilled and physically fit, especially given his age and the fact that he had barely held a lightsaber in over a decade.

I forgot about that. Ulic hadn't even touched his saber in ten years.

and yet Johun Othune.... Maybe Sylva wasn't any better than him...

She was. Check the link.

i read the entire link. I didn't find her winning too many battles, or taking on qualified opponents. She got in what amounted to a cheap shot of the claw against Kun who wanted her to use her lightsaber(who I am trying to substantiate in the first place, so whatever she did against him doesn't qualify her, or we have circular logic)