Rank the greatest jedi in a top five

Originally posted by Nephthys
Except they do not still exist within the Force. The only way that the Exile and Nihilus can still use the Force is by leeching it from others. Thats why the Exile only gets back her ability to use the Force when she meets and is bonded to Kriea. She is specifically noted to be an 'absense in the Force'. In a sense she is no different from Sion, a corpse who is somehow able to walk around, only where he is dead in the flesh, she is dead in the Force.

Doesn't it require the force to leech the force. And Nihilus as shown that he gets weak if he does not feed on the force after so long. So even wounds require the force to live, right?

Originally posted by Korto Vos
Ganner Rhysode fought off thousands of Vong when he became one with the Force.

Amazing feat indeed. I liked Ganner and that scene was fun to read, however he was a joke of a jedi until the end. He shouldn't be anywhere near a list of greatest jedi.

Originally posted by Q99
Still, you've got great Jedi who never forged a Sith Empire and brought the galaxy to it's knees at all.

Forging a Sith Empire is, I think, worth a lot more than -1 in most Jedi's eyes.

Especially considering his writings while Sith inspired multiple other forms of the Sith down the road aside from the Triumvirate. Darth Rivan, and giving Darth Bane the idea for the Rule of Two.

Fine, it can be worth -10 million if you want it to. I'm just saying that Revan left behind a tremendous legacy that affected the Jedi and Sith Orders and the immediate and long-term future of the galaxy. To say he simply fixed what he started is ridiculous, because his actions had an impact that reverberated throughout the galaxy.

Because he was Darth Vader for decades and was one of the central people responsible for the Jedi purge, personally killing hundreds. He lead the inquisition to seek out and kill survivors, he destroyed worlds, and so on. That's a whole ton of bad points. It's not like he had a brief flirtation with the dark side ala Luke, he did a lot of evil stuff.

The Jedi Order that Vader helped exterminate was one that was static and ceased to change over the course of the millennia. In this way, with his removal of Sidious, which broke apart the Galactic Empire, Vader brought balance to [Light Side of] the Force by allowing Luke Skywalker to rebuild a Jedi Order that wasn't rigid and lost in its way to perceive the Force.

Kaan wouldn't have cracked if he wasn't in a corner. That was the culmination of a long campaign with many victories. Sure, it required Farfalla for the final push, but they had taken the Sith down from a very strong point down to the edge.]

Yet, both armies on Ruusan were almost destroyed, as it was. Kaan had no reason to unleash the thought bomb. It was not as if Hoth vastly outnumbered him.

Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
Amazing feat indeed. I liked Ganner and that scene was fun to read, however he was a joke of a jedi until the end. He shouldn't be anywhere near a list of greatest jedi.

I think it deserves to be in the pantheon of greatest Jedi feats, even if Rhysode himself wasn't exactly glamorous.

Originally posted by Korto Vos
I think it deserves to be in the pantheon of greatest Jedi [B]feats, even if Rhysode himself wasn't exactly glamorous. [/B]

Agreed.

Likewise, Rivi Anu never got a chance to do anything but her uber feat.

Originally posted by Korto Vos
I think it deserves to be in the pantheon of greatest Jedi [B]feats, even if Rhysode himself wasn't exactly glamorous. [/B]

Yes, but 1 feat does not make him one of the best jedi. You can't just pick the 1 thing he did great and ignore all the rest of his history lol

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Doesn't it require the force to leech the force.

Apparantly not. Though that can be explained by saying that it was not the Exile who originally fostered the bond between her and Kreia, but the other way around. Or I suppose it is possible that it was just something the Exile can do without being connected to the Force. I mean, even a dead body can still move reflexively I suppose. My guess is this one because it at least explains Nihilus more.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
And Nihilus as shown that he gets weak if he does not feed on the force after so long. So even wounds require the force to live, right?

No, Nihilus isn't like the Exile, he couldn't take not being connected to the Force so he forcably attacked and drained his fellow survivors of Malachor. Plus he no longer has a physical body, he is just a spirit/force ghost attatched to his armor, thus it makes sense that he needs the Force to sustain himself, unlike the Exile who survived without it for several years.

Basically the entire point of the game is that the Exile wasn't connected to the Force anymore. Its insane to doubt this fact because it is the bedrock upon which the entire game is built.

Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
Yes, but 1 feat does not make him one of the best jedi. You can't just pick the 1 thing he did great and ignore all the rest of his history lol

But it's a feat. I'm not talking anything about Rhysode himself, just that his feat of taking on thousands of Vong when united with the Force is one of the best.

And I find it difficult looking for feats of the same caliber.

This thread isn't 'greatest jedi feats' though.

Originally posted by Nephthys
This thread isn't 'greatest jedi feats' though.

I know. I already posted my list of 5 strongest Jedi, 5 most influential Jedi, and I'm now discussing 5 greatest feats by a Jedi.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Basically the entire point of the game is that the Exile wasn't connected to the Force anymore. Its insane to doubt this fact because it is the bedrock upon which the entire game is built.

Then it's built on shaky bedrock. Afterall, Malachor V is described as a wound in the force and yet it's noted that the force is extremly strong on the planet.

Originally posted by Korto Vos
Ganner Rhysode fought off thousands of Vong when he became one with the Force. Ri-vi Anu lifted a Star Destroyer, though for a few seconds, when she accepted death and oneness with the Force. Those were incredible.

This. How is it no one else mentioned Ganner? He slaughtered more Vong in a matter of minutes than the entire Jedi order did over the span of 5 years. He was in beast mode and the only other two Jedi who displayed that kind of raw power were Anakin Solo and Jacen but not nearly on the same level as Ganner.

Originally posted by ares834
Then it's built on shaky bedrock. Afterall, Malachor V is described as a wound in the force and yet it's noted that the force is extremly strong on the planet.

Originally posted by akpwnz
This. How is it no one else mentioned Ganner? He slaughtered more Vong in a matter of minutes than the entire Jedi order did over the span of 5 years. He was in beast mode and the only other two Jedi who displayed that kind of raw power were Anakin Solo and Jacen but not nearly on the same level as Ganner.

No one mentioned Ganner because he wasn't one of the top five jedi of all time. Its not complex 😕

It was a pretty b*tchin feat, though. A decent runner-up for the Greatest Lone Feats of PowAH(!). But as it wasn't a consistent and readily attainable ability, it doesn't prop Ganner in to the top Combatants category.

Reading this thread has reminded me why the vast majority of SW is shit and at same time exposes my pathetic ass for what it really as, a fanboypurveyor of shit.

Shit's fun when it's wrapped in lasers.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Shit's fun when it's wrapped in lasers.

It is, it really is.

Damn you GL, damn you.

About Luke falling to the dark side. No matter what it was wise choice. It allowed Luke to discover location of cloning facility and destruction codes of world devastators. Also, his falling to the darkside wasn't voluntary but by Emperors incredibly strong mind influence. I consider it a form of a sacrifice.

Originally posted by Arhael
About Luke falling to the dark side. No matter what it was wise choice.