Rank the greatest jedi in a top five

That doesn't answer my first question and I refer not to Jinn, but the "prequel Jedi" as a collective.

The Sith re-emerging and all the Jedi do is say 'we'll look into it' and sit on their asses looking to see who'll be elected Chancellor was pretty dumb. Send some ****ing back-up with Qui-Gon you incompetent assholes.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The Sith re-emerging and all the Jedi do is say 'we'll look into it' and sit on their asses looking to see who'll be elected Chancellor was pretty dumb.

How would you have approached ze situation?

Nephthys
Send some ****ing back-up with Qui-Gon you incompetent assholes.

Now that I can agree with, though Qui-Gon wasn't supposed to fight anyone, just escort her back.

The Sith had already attacked Padme and the group once. Which is why its dumb they don't send anyone back with him to help out, because even if he's just escorting her Maul might (and did) attack again. Thats what I meant.

No, I agree.

Good. Now look at my PM on ROK. >_<

Originally posted by Herbert Spencer
That doesn't answer my first question and I refer not to Jinn, but the "prequel Jedi" as a collective.

Mace: "We will use all of our resources to uncovering the identity of your attacker whom you suspect is a Sith. Now go back to that enemy-occupied world alone, without any support or further resources. Hope you don't die while you unravel the mystery of the Sith."

Mace: "Padawan Anakin "Grave Danger" Skywalker, Senator Amidala is being targeted by assassins. Escort her alone back to the most obvious hiding spot we can think of."
Anakin: "Yes, master. I'll be sure to parade her around in broad daylight in the middle of a lake."

Obi-Wan: "I just found an army of clones that was ordered from one of our own, now dead, Jedi Masters."
Mace: "Alright, let's not worry about that."
Obi-Wan: Oh, okay.

Obi-Wan: "Do you think it's true what Dooku said, about Sidious controlling the Senate?"
Yoda: "Who knows, let's not do anything about it."
Obi-Wan: "Oh, okay."

Anakin: "General Grievous is hiding in the Mustafar system. If we catch that Jedi-killing, cunning, hard-to-catch monster, we can end this war."
Jedi Council: "Agreed, let's send Obi-Wan alone, instead of with his long-time friend and comrade, Grave Danger, whom we'll dispatch to spy on his long-time personal counsel, and ever-more-powerful Chancellor, Palpatine, because we think Palpatine may be tied to the Dark Side. Good luck, Grave Danger."

Palpatine: "You will not believe how much I know about the Sith. Now execute that man, and leave your best friend here to die."
Anakin: "God, I trust you."

Mace: "Palpatine may be a Sith Lord. So let's go arrest him in the dead of night, in his office, away from any witnesses, with only four of us, instead of confronting him in daytime, in public, and forcing him to either flee, 'fess up, or submit to tests which we have never implemented in the past three years, despite Dooku's testimony, and the necessity for hunting down the last Sith."
Kit, Agen, Saesse: "Oh, okay."

Yoda: "Obi-Wan, let's split up, instead of uniting against the Sith one at a time--divide and conquer style."
Obi-Wan: "Yes, wise and ancient Master of the Jedi."

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Originally posted by Nephthys
The Sith had already attacked Padme and the group once. Which is why its dumb they don't send anyone back with him to help out, because even if he's just escorting her Maul might (and did) attack again. Thats what I meant.

Thing is the Council were not convinced it was a Sith. Mace and Mundi both objected to even contemplating that idea.

Perhaps Qui-Gon had a history of exagerating threats to the Council 🙄

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Thing is the Council were not convinced it was a Sith. Mace and Mundi both objected to even contemplating that idea.

And that makes them not dumb?

So I missed Lucien's post completely, which makes me think the sneaky Canadian edited it in. mmm

Lucien
Yoda: "Chosen One, the boy may be. But nevertheless, grave danger I fear in his training."
Obi-Wan: "Oh wise and ancient Master of the Jedi... pleeeeeeeease? I made a promise!"
Yoda: "Oh, okay."

Mace: "We will use all of our resources to uncovering the identity of your attacker whom you suspect is a Sith. Now go back to that enemy-occupied world alone, without any support or further resources. Hope you don't die while you unravel the mystery of the Sith."

Mace: "Padawan Anakin "Grave Danger" Skywalker, Senator Amidala is being targeted by assassins. Escort her alone back to the most obvious hiding spot we can think of."
Anakin: "Yes, master. I'll be sure to parade her around in broad daylight in the middle of a lake."

Obi-Wan: "I just found an army of clones that was ordered from one of our own, now dead, Jedi Masters."
Mace: "Alright, let's not worry about that."
Obi-Wan: Oh, okay.

Obi-Wan: "Do you think it's true what Dooku said, about Sidious controlling the Senate?"
Yoda: "Who knows, let's not do anything about it."
Obi-Wan: "Oh, okay."

Anakin: "General Grievous is hiding in the Mustafar system. If we catch that Jedi-killing, cunning, hard-to-catch monster, we can end this war."
Jedi Council: "Agreed, let's send Obi-Wan alone, instead of with his long-time friend and comrade, Grave Danger, whom we'll dispatch to spy on his long-time personal counsel, and ever-more-powerful Chancellor, Palpatine, because we think Palpatine may be tied to the Dark Side. Good luck, Grave Danger."

Palpatine: "You will not believe how much I know about the Sith. Now execute that man, and leave your best friend here to die."
Anakin: "God, I trust you."

Mace: "Palpatine may be a Sith Lord. So let's go arrest him in the dead of night, in his office, away from any witnesses, with only four of us, instead of confronting him in daytime, in public, and forcing him to either flee, 'fess up, or submit to tests which we have never implemented in the past three years, despite Dooku's testimony, and the necessity for hunting down the last Sith."
Kit, Agen, Saesse: "Oh, okay."

Yoda: "Obi-Wan, let's split up, instead of uniting against the Sith one at a time--divide and conquer style."
Obi-Wan: "Yes, wise and ancient Master of the Jedi."

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To put it charitably, I think you may have distorted the facts slightly in each example of your response. I'd rather not get into a part and parcel dissection, which would be tedious, but I'd like to make my point just the same with two examples.

For example, what wisdom is there to be had in Obi-Wan's presence in the fight again Sidious when Kenobi was so utterly overwhelmed by Dooku? Why is it that you condemn Anakin for trusting one Sith and yet condemn the Jedi as well for not trusting another one?

The point was not to get you to point out their failures in action, but failures in thought and motivation.

Lucien, so sad that this forum doesn't allow to click "like" on your last post.
Can't really discuss about Qui-Gon actions as it's been ages since I last watched that episode.

But really as Anakin was Chosen one it was will of the Force that led Qui-Gon to discover him. So it's kind of double sided coin, since Jedi trust the Force and do what they feel right, even if makes no sence.

I think it was the will of the Force that led Qui-Gon to discover Anakin who assisted in the extermination of a 1,000 generation-old order of peacekeepers, the effective enslavement of a galaxy under Sith rule, the deaths of billions, including the destruction of several planets--one of them a peaceful, Core world and founding member of the Republic. Which Anakin helped topple.

Just so, in the end, they could get rid of one guy. Who, if his enemies had been capable of a 3rd grader's level of intelligence, should have been killed before all that crap transpired.

I think either Qui-Gon was secretly a galactic hellspawn, or the Force has an incredibly malevolent and sick will.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I think it was the will of the Force that led Qui-Gon to discover Anakin who assisted in the extermination of a 1,000 generation-old order of peacekeepers, the effective enslavement of a galaxy under Sith rule, the deaths of billions, including the destruction of several planets--one of them a peaceful, Core world and founding member of the Republic. Which Anakin helped topple.

Just so, in the end, they could get rid of one guy. Who, if his enemies had been capable of a 3rd grader's level of intelligence, should have been killed before all that crap transpired.

I think either Qui-Gon was secretly a galactic hellspawn, or the Force has an incredibly malevolent and sick will.

I was going to post a picture of Kreia with an accompanying 'This pleases Kreia', but I can't find a single picture of Kreia smiling.

The trick is to look in to her lifeless eyes. The satisfaction is in them.

Me Gusta.

Oh yeah, I totally got her wet.

I think either Qui-Gon was secretly a galactic hellspawn, or the Force has an incredibly malevolent and sick will. [/B]

Hmmm... no. If Sideous had been killed by Mace, that would have pretty much been the end of Sideous' enslavement of the Galaxy.

Since, you know, he'd be dead and all.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Hmmm... no. If Sideous had been killed by Mace, that would have pretty much been the end of Sideous' enslavement of the Galaxy.

Since, you know, he'd be dead and all.